GitHub Copilot switches to usage-based billing

Pete Davison337

Oh frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!

Robin Marwick170

Oh no will they actually have to use their own brains?

CaliforniaIncidental154

it'll be cheaper to bring in interns and junior developers again

Eric Adler125

Ah, finally people are learning that "one prompt" entered means several dozen "sub-prompts" just to parse their prompt into a proper "question" (set of vectors) for the LLM. Then several dozen MORE sub-prompts to convert the result into human-readable text.

Ed Zitron116

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Khue88

Watching people meltdown: hilarious. Knowing my company is actively onboarding with GitHub Copilot: overwhelming depression.

CriticalQuit85

Worlds most expensive attempt at an infinite money glitch

GuardianofWisdom84

I hope every single mf giving those "embrace AI" speeches at college see this and weep.

Joshua73

It'll be really funny if cost per token is still being subsidized

Oggie61

This is just the people who are super paying attention, too. End of the month is going to be insane

Josh Crowley (@jdcrowley)61

Hopefully a lot of companies are soon going to feel some very painful regret over the layoffs they've done over the last year or two

jerzy60

people in my team ran out of tokens without doing literally anything with the chatbot. I tested with like "ping" and it stopped processing after 2 seconds. good job microsoft. apparently "a bug"

bikepop55

does this not call for a Smiling Man

Craig Reynolds48

I write prose and code every day. My cost for LLM slop is unaffected by this change, remaining at $0 per month.

Jeff W 🌮47

Lots of internal communications going on about this where I work as people are reporting hitting 25% of their monthly on day 1, if not more. This is going to be a bloodbath.

Bill McCormick45

Well. Still not convinced the token pricing is real costs as they continue to light money on fire. But it is a start on the path to understanding this is shit

VictoriousYankee40

When are these tech bros gonna’ realize that we simply have no more money left for their anti-social push into ai. The bros have already stolen all of our money. We ain’t got nuthin’ left.

Duke8739

Oh it gets better: these prices are still not covering the actual cost, they're only reducing losses.

Lorimar36

'The first hit is free'. Business model of most dealers throughout history.

Sarah Goodyear33

it's like if they had to pay for on-street parking in nyc

Lyn 🏳️‍⚧️31

Man, if only someone had been screaming this was inevitable for the last 3 or so years

David Collier30

I just deleted Microsoft edge as it can’t answer a simple question without trying to make me use co-pilot. Drove me insane.

Fireye29

Imagine outsourcing your skills to a machine you don't even own dear god

Grae Hall29

Happy AI Bubble Burst day!

austin28

complaining that the supposed miracle worker runs me less than half of my rent

ElSato28

we haters be eating good today

Jasper 'Lope27

And this is absolutely still subsidized as much as they can manage. They know how bad this looks. They would want to soften the blow as much as possible. This is *the best they could do* to keep the price down. What a wonderful day

Mike Thompson27

AI allows me to develop apps as if I had an entire development team on payroll. … It costs what?!?

SID Chip Vicious24

oh no the fake devs better git gud fast

Tuff23

They just need to stop buying avocado toast so they can buy more tokens

Orchestructive22

They tried to get coders so reliant on AI that when this happened they'd have no choice but to pay for the machine to do their jobs for them but really they pulled the plug too early. This is very much a "drug dealer waiting for their client to get addicted" method it's wild

El Sargento García22

Guess it’s back to Jesus as my copilot. Oh Lord.

Chris The Hairy22

This comment is amazing. His company is so hosed but the senior staff are morons... www.reddit.com/r/GithubCopi...

Gay League19

Oh no! How could no one see something like this happening in a capitalist based society???

Kait Richardson 🥔17

Oh no the subsidies for the tulip bulbs that cause brain damage are running out

Linotype Pilgrim16

cooking 🍿 on the server racks for this thread

blues82.bsky.social15

All the “learn to code” guys absolutely pissing their pants that they won’t be able to have the computer write their code for them anymore

Trailer Park PhD15

I will never, ever willingly pay for #AI 1) Because it sucks, and I have to work 3x as hard to remediate the consistently garbage results from all of the #AI tools I am forced to use. 2) I don't want to give one more dime to this f**king Silicon Valley broligarchs. Starve them out of their f*

Gayming Dwagon15

YES! BE CLEANSED IN HOLY FIRE, AI PEDDLERS!!

Peace Pangolin14

Software used to be a near-zero-cost occupation. If you could get your hands on a cheap laptop and an internet connection you could learn to code, make something rad, and start a career. With this push to AI everything it will soon be only for the rich kids. An unfathomable loss. What a shame.

For no reason I'm thinking about that story where an apple growing town in China lost its bees, replaced them with human pollinating labor and made headlines for increasing profits and efficiency, and then a few years later it turned out labor was too expensive and they just stopped growing apples.

Skirting The Issues (He/Him)13

eagerly watching my inbox for a holy shit email re: copilot

patchamgreenguy.bsky.social12

People have no idea what's about to hit the industry.

Craig Reynolds10

But the LLM slop industry will be fine, we have seen how much value it delivers.

The Mewl10

can't they just use Slurp Juice?

Uh-oh, looks like they're running out of bubble investments to subsidize the price. Get ready to put on your best I told you so and/or shocked pikachu face when your LLM-loving friends start complaining.

Dak9

LLM companies out there like drug dealers getting them all hooked on not using their own brains.

🔞 kemono lover 🔞9

if only there was a way that you could learn how to conduct yourself in a digital environment, and plan out your scripts, and implement the code yourself alas

Never Ever Trump9

Microsoft is doing as well in AI as they did with web browsers, online meeting systems, imaging programs and smart phones. they were never innovators.

K0r0n1s (白いカラス)9

It's a collective of desperate people all at the same time going: "Wait, it really costs HOW MUCH!?"

Jean8

30 minutes burning 16% of his (100 $?) monthly allowance. Means AI is turning on 32$/h or roughly 22500$/month for prompting.

GingerTimSucks8

A lot of people saying “users will just move to XYZ product” and that may be true for vibecoders or individuals, but corps don’t move that fast and often have a lot of other requirements or circumstances that lock them into Copilot. Or maybe that’s just an issue where I work, idk.

✨Tom Fenny✨8

Can't wait for the new wave of "I didn't understand the harm, I have changed, I am listening and learning."

Rotanen ♾️7

My theory is that they planned to keep AI prices free/low for a very long time to keep driving the hype bubble and get everyone dependent on it before gradually ramping up the price, but the Epsto-Iranian War spiked oil prices and pushed the timetable up too fast.

abarcks.bsky.social7

Reminds me of early library databases that charged us for each executed search. There’s a reason we stuck with Boolean…you gonna charge per search? That’s ok imma build a paragraph of a search string.

anceldelambert.bsky.social7

Tee, dare I say, hee

mdemone7

It's not just a billing change – it's a redefinition of the marketplace.

eschneider7

Hopefully this means folks will stop nagging me to use more AI in my work...

Cyrus7

It might be time to get a bottle of celebratory beverage so i can be ready for when the ai bubble finally pops

Josh Rogers7

I love that the most effective means of working with agents, and keeping a clean context, is to use an orchestrator agent and a swarm of sub-agents is now the most expensive solution. I have to give it to AI companies as their customers, my employer included, spent years trying to make the...

Alexander Schmidt-Lebuhn7

Really quite funny to read that reddit and see so many predictions coming true at once: * disbelief that it can be that expensive * management completely in denial * comments that it is okay to pay more for complex tasks but unacceptable not to be unable to predict what a given task will cost

Grand Get a Vax and Piss Off RFK Moff6

First they stole my apes, Odo. So I prompted my own, but now the apes are too expensive, Odo!

I dont need to pay a chatbot to do google searches for me, i have managed it myself for decades for free.

ingolo.bsky.social6

Well, maybe, maybe a few people will even learn that just iteratively checking stochastically plausible symbol salad is a mildly inefficient use of computing... Maybe? Like 1 or 2?

John Sandy5

GitHub A centre, for gits. #ISIHAC

Chronoss Chiron5

so by next week we can expect a ton less ai usage GOOD

Jesse Talavera5

Everybody hurry up and finish your side projects before Anthropic does this, too!

Devin𓅃5

It is funny how Microsoft routinely does things that would bankrupt any other company.

volkinaxe5

just a good day seeing AI burning down

scotthoots.bsky.social5

This was always where it was headed. "AI" as it currently is built isn't helpful enough for an average person to pay much for and companies won't want to shoulder another subscription license that their employees aren't really using.

andyroz Go Green5

The Microsoft way is to have a lengthy free period, build dependence, then start charging. Because something like co-pilot is totally unnecessary to do any work, it should be easy enough to ditch it. Anyone who down-sized their dev is about to find out that ai is more expensive than a developer.

Brian Bird5

Is Google moving in this direction at all? My company has gemini but has mercifully dragged their feet on pushing usage, and I'm hoping it gets too expensive before they have the chance

SaftyKuma5

I suspect even this is still less than the real cost, though it is a lot closer to what it used to be.

Jeff Craig4

Hilarious these guys think OpenAI, Google and Anthropic aren't about to do the same thing.

Saberwarthog4

*Cue to Tom Morello x Bearthooth "Everything burns"* "Light it up, let's go, light it up, let's go !"

Kitty Litterature4

All these people are complaining "I made one single corrective prompt and 25% of my available tokens are gone!" It does seem that these models are unsustainably and prohibitively expensive. oh well!

KWierso4

Love a bunch of replies in there being "well, I replicated copilot's services locally with my [$10,000 GPU], so that's probably the path forward"

Annmarie4

Pre-paid cellular vibes. Welcome to hell, folks

PlayWithTheJ4

Ah, would you look at that. There's no sympathy left in the tank. www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM9n...

kavi ~ (•̀ж•́)4

Oh man that's a great feeling - the overhype finally meeting real costs. I hope they have to hire real devs back with better salaries.

🔞n_q🔞4

Whaaaat? But the innovation! The future!

🎸Paul🎹4

I think Galloway might be right here when he said he thinks China will start flooding the U.S. market with 80/20 LLMs that have all stolen (sorry, “distilled”) their models from expensive versions by Anthropic/OpenAI. How much does DeepSeek cost again?

(a)Lice3

I've had this song queued up for when the bubble starts to pop astrophysicsbrazil.bandcamp.com/album/komm-s...

scarymercedes.bsky.social3

Annual copilot subscribers are still grandfathered into the old pricing, but Microsoft is compensating by jacking up the model multipliers a LOT. I can’t tell if this is better or worse than the situation monthly subscribers are in. docs.github.com/en/copilot/r... www.mindstudio.ai/blog/github-...

Punished Matt3

Goddamn these guys are dim

ardrigh3

Microsoft doing a great justice to open source by slashing the generation of autoslop on Github 😂

Saint Sherman - The Ultimate Patriot3

Bill is on the list.

Gojira10003

Good news! I am having a beer and popcorn evening watching the results I think

Suddenly Susan3

We have Copilot at work. Wonder for how long?

Kristina Del Valle 🎨 ✒3

You know what costs no money? Using your brain.

TIMtheTOON3

“Customers, please underwrite our theft and psychosis machine”

Bran Mac Muffin3

Following the meltdowns in /r/GithubCoPilot, and while I'm seeing individuals seeing their estimates jump to $3000 on a previous $30 spend, it's going to be interesting to see the /corporate/ billing on 100 developers :)

✨ Lane Ylem Elhaz ✨3

I love that for them.

Conrad The NoToryous 🇪🇺🇮🇪🇬🇧🔶️🏴‍☠️3

I enjoy your YouTube exposures of all the AI nonsense. Brilliant 👏

Large Buttes3

ai fixes you having money

Auton AI News3

Token billing is revealing something interesting, flat-rate subscriptions hid what these workflows actually cost. Now that usage is being priced more directly we're getting a clearer picture of the economics. Does the ROI still look as compelling when the subsidies disappear?

Juda3

really love the second guy here, talking about this like it's a bad balance patch for a video game and not, you know, the monetization system of the product. it's not meant to be an improvement on the user's end!

Major English, Esquire3

pls keep us updated i want to see how fast they get to sephirothposting and issuing actionable threats because i feel like it will not take long

Titan Wolf 🔜 FWA, TFS, MFM3

It might be worth pointing out to as many people as possible that they cannot get their work done because some rich chud is paying for an AI gf

leearizuno.bsky.social2

This is the only language they'll understand.

Dan the bad banjo picker 🪕2

And now we wait for the market to crash. I’ve been all cash for quite sometime now. This is madness.

Gert Sønderby2

I've been watching people at my workplace start to use this shit, and suddenly, there were restrictions on what models they could use. Boy were they upset.

PremierBromanov🇵🇸2

It's crazy to write "thank you" to your LLM

Angels In Velvet2

AI needs to go. We have lived this long without it. We don't need it.

wasthistakenyet.bsky.social2

They will keep paying for it one way or another. People are still buying $15 value meals when they used to be $5 a few years ago. They're still buying 12 packs of Coke for $13 when they were $4 a few years ago. They will keep paying. Likely they'll fire people because this timeline SUCKS.

Summer 🏳️‍⚧️2

What do you mean this incredible, revolutionary, employee-replacing product isn't worth $600 a month?!

Bill2

coding since '77 We were introduced to GitLab DAP - it's just another Rational Rose. This one too?

Derek Gray2

So Apple Intelligence was really "stay away from this shit"?

ShoRKdev2

I know that it's well documented now that this technology makes you dumber but oh my god these people look so pathetic whining about how their infinite free labor machine is no longer doing their job for them so they can alternate between playing gacha games and jacking off all day.

mac-minus-cafe.bsky.social2

do they copy vision of rented, measured "intelligence"?...

Tom Usher3

thing is, they just haven't got enough time to get people hooked on the product before making it so they can charge an exorbitant amount on it. with iphones etc, it already seemed so much like the future that everyone was willing to pay whatever for it, with AI, not so much