Tomb Raider: Legacy of Atlantis hands‑on, devs explain AI use

Teko Mythmaster360

The PR guy stopping them from answering the second question is not a good look at best. I've already written the game off for using AI at all, but now they just look like they're hiding something.

Bryn! 🏳️‍⚧️229

She absolutely did not need to jump into that at all, absolutely made it worse for them. Was the follow-up question a bit clumsy? Sure. But "we've said all we want to say on generative AI" is quite possibly the worst response you could give.

pasco.bsky.social212

Hard pass. Do you know how game developers used to "visualise that object in the world"? They hired concept artists. AI is a tool of Capital designed to finally and fully disenfranchise Labour. Full Stop. That's all it is, that's all they want, and if they get it that's the ball game.

K. Alexis183

Well, there goes Tomb Raider off my list. I don't think it'll matter in the big scheme of things, but that weird interruption made it cross the line from "guilty purchase for fun" to "no, this is not happening"

Cal141

I’ve got a Steam backlog like nobody’s business and years of past games I can buy. I will not support games that use generative AI. Besides the disgusting ethical issues of labor theft, how can anyone afford graphics cards to continue the hobby? These execs don’t want us to game.

juno rylee schultz96

the whole point of making art is to make art If you dont want to make art and use the robot to do it then you are NOT making art I hope this helps

PhillyYeetSteak 95

Wow they really blew this one, PR made it worse imo

🦋Tristra🦋81

AI is the modern day lead gasoline. It's poisoned everything, driving people crazy, and covering everything in digital smog. Despite this industry loves it.

deenom80

Nash's Rule of AI Usage proven again

Galmesh Rosewood74

If you have so little imagination that you need slop to visualize your game, maybe you should get into another field of work than anything creative.

bee 'hyphen' moh61

Oh look at that, now I can't visualise buying a copy of his game. Funny how these things happen.

barnabus57

this reads like a comedy skit holy fuck

Chef54

the moment the canned answer falls apart because nobody actually knows how AI helps speed up the art pipeline (because it doesn't)

Goofierbrute47

Yeaaaaaah......not a good look when PR shuts down a legit question about whether the object generated with AI has scripting on it. As a wise man once said:

Clove, Leonid Butch Energy 🏳️‍⚧️41

Which instantly turns into, at the next milestone meeting with the suits, "what do you mean you need billable development hours to make trees? they were already there in the demo you showed me last week, what happened? make those buildings the same way btw" Yielding an inch gives up the whole game

Blaster136041

How to immediately kill any interest in an upcoming game: Mention you used GenAI during its development.

SvensPron🔞40

So what he's saying they're cutting concept artist labor

JunetembAeryn34

Cool i will be saving so much money by not buying games made with AI

ozwalled33

Questions I want answered when AI is being used are, "Has no one told you that no one wants you to use AI?", "Using AI is needlessly driving up the costs of games and of hardware for everyone, not to mention the jobs lost & environmental impact - why aren't you considering these consequences?"

Owl New Worlds 🔢 Wishlist NOKOMA on Steam!25

It isn't human crafted if you used GenAI to conceptualize it in the first place. You should use your brain and your IMAGINATION to conceptualize stuff.

Luis Alis・ルイス23

That's funny: at my house we see AI as a piece of shit that can make me not buy a game

🕹️ algi 🇭🇺 🇪🇺21

He says that they use it to help visualize how a thing would look like in the game. People with imagination, artists, developers don't need that. My guess is that the managers need that. They can't imagine the game seeing a bare bones version. That's why the explanation got cut off. That's my guess.

Ed Lynch21

I'm sorry. The script I memorized doesn't have any specifics.

Cancermantis Creations20

“We don’t wanna pay concept artists anymore” Concept Art usually doesn’t make it directly into games, traditionally speaking. It’s still something that’s been done by people, and is a critical creative step for defining the game. They’d replace the final art with LLMs too if it was copyrightable

A G20

yeah, love when the PR rep steps in inspires much confidence

mirq18

everything in the game is not human crafted if anything conceptual was done by generative AI. i understand why developers want to use these tools to save time and money but you cannot call the game fully human crafted when generative AI is involved at any step

gwenadier16

> generative AI It's a plagiarism machine companies use to justify mass layoffs of artists and other creative minds. Call it what it is.

Pineapple15

Yeah let the PR rep jump in that is ABSOLUTELY the look you want 😂

Cranky Chibi Cthulhu🐙Steam Demo Available NOW!!13

For fucks sake. Just say, yes. You use it for concept art. You treasonous misleading twit. 😒

Guba13

Imagine wasting all that dev time on writing shitty prompts and generating dozens of iterations of an object instead of using that time to... Make the object.

Iridium Wolf13

Here's how using generative AI in your game works: I won't buy it.

Anjin Anhut - Open for Work in 202712

Hey Game Informer, I just want to let you know: this is an EXCELLENT post.

The Man Who Would Be Damn Hell Ass King11

If they can't be bothered to design the game why would I bother playing it?

Konner Knudsen 🌈11

"we wanna make sure everything in our final game is human crafted -- but based on better ideas from better artists and better people who took the time to actually make things themselves." The pro-Ai movement is an anti-consent movement. They are thieves without honor. Boycott Crystal Dynamics.

Adman2911

I just really don't think that any explanation will make generative AI palatable in my eyes.

Zac!11

They know we hate it, they know it’s awful, but they don’t care. Don’t let any of these people near creative projects if you want them to turn out good at all.

Nick The Time Miser11

so instead of going the traditional route, they are adding ANOTHER step in for AI ? Come on now. How dumb does he think we are? You're replacing human artists that would create sketches and ideas with AI, cause it costs less money.

MK Zero10

"We use Ai to help our team..." Better idea, how about you

Ashtarte10

As a diehard Lara Croft fan I'm so morbidly depressed about this situation and refuse to support any game that uses AI to take jobs away from real people. You should fucking know better Crystal Dynamics.

Dave Murkington10

At Murkington Inc. we see AI as tool that can help our team determine whether or not to buy a game. In this case it’s a no.

Luis Alis・ルイス10

How are y'all calling it tomb rAIder ???

Alex (He/Him and They/Them)10

When the PR Rep jumps in you know the answer is yes the prototype of the game is made in AI. If you use generative AI your project is failed, you will be fired your company will lose money.

Zoreda Ichaso10

As a consumer, I see not buying their slop as a tool to avoid wasting money on crap they couldn't be arsed to do themselves, but instead outsourced to a glorified autofill.

That Zapher Guy10

yep, Burning the earth to create assets that get thrown away in the end. Awesome

HumbleDad - Art9

Hey, I have a pertinent question about how it was utilized.... *buffers without AI to hand hold* Uhh I uhh.. no.. um.. *Interrupts his aparent inability to adapt in the moment and answer a question even I could understand* I think we've said all we plan to say

Shiro9

I ain't buying no AI shit. Pay developers and artists.

Raphaël Ambrosius Costeau9

So, in other words, AI is deciding what should be in the game. K. No thanks. Tomb Raider’s gotten really lame these days anyways, making more faster isn’t the solution

hogsy9

Props to you guys for pressing on the question. Says a lot that their PR rep had to step in though.

Braaains Bro Ben! 🧠8

Ai captions illustrating the irony

Grumpy Polar Bear7

For fucks sake. In the old days making a tomb raider game the devs would go to the local library to pick up books on ancient civilizations for reference and now we're down to this low.

Danny, Squaresoft's Official FFVIII Shill7

“We’ll use the rip off machine to put stuff in trained on existing work done by others and if we like it make those ‘ideas’ part of our final product” And he doesnt see how that taints the whole thing from top to bottom?

Mr. Cait7

Fuck this guy and fuck this shit

sertorius7.bsky.social7

LMAO! "We've said all we want to say right now..." Basically, we don't want you to catch us in a lie.

Rick7

Lmao they couldn't even answer the question without PR popping off. I'm not going to be touching this at all. I can't wait for the inevitable "oh we didn't know this left over AI asset would make it into the game"

RABBIT He/Him7

They want to use AI, then they simply don't want my money. It's a pity, I liked Tomb Raider, welp I don't need to play this anymore.

Ed Lynch7

That's just concept art. You're using it for concept art.

Ayumi Shirubāfokkusu7

Welp. Another game I don’t have to worry about buying anymore looks like. Shame really since I enjoyed the 2013-2018 Tomb Raider games. I don’t think these people realize yet something fundamental & that’s we don’t NEED games. With prices going up we can be picky & I chose no AI slop in my games

🐺 Drawing "4 // Itchy. Tasty." since 1996 🐺7

The PR Rep immediately swooping in to redirect the conversation because he literally doesn't know how to answer the question lmfao fuck these people man.

ricargvi7

Tbh, it was all more than clear since the "we see AI as a tool..." part.

Lucky Vulp6

That freaken pause felt like he was mentally trying to ask chatgpt what to say omg.

Garret6

If you need, I can be available to discuss how I, someone who buys games, don’t care about his excuses and will skip this one because of AI.

Ryan M6

*Insert that one Bluesky post about using diarrhea to bake cakes*

Despite Everything, It's Still Mauser6

All that PR speak just to say "we didn't want to pay concept artists"

History's Only Boy6

That's some real loser energy and I will not be playing this thank you for making the decision easy

tryhardsweat.bsky.social6

There are so, so, so many games to play out there, including the excellent Tomb Raider trilogy from a few years ago. I see no reason to spend any time or money on a game that pulls any AI BS whatsoever. Crystal Dynamics will have to do without my $70

Morquin5

They see AI as a tool that helps their team, I see it as something that kills any interest I had in their game.

Holly Brigstocke5

I never liked Crystal Dynamics take on Tomb Raider or their engine or the Yanks running off with a British creation. If you're using AI you're taking lazy shortcuts and crippling your staff's creativity and degrading a shared human experience and just helping the boss class get richer.

Evie 🏳️‍⚧️🎮5

“Oh shit oh fuck a question that can’t be answered by the script we finely tuned to give a satisfying answer while saying nothing”

Jess5

Why did they cut off such a legit question? Like what was the asset generated? Was it a story board? A 3D models? Literal code? That's an amazing follow-up.

Brian de Lint4

Guess I'm not playing the new Tomb Raider, what a shame - I liked the previous trilogy. Oh well

Data4

good to know i can skip this.

Cody Badders • Commissions Open4

That's a lot of words to say "our game isn't worth playing" Oh well.

Gucci Bedpan4

It was already a completely unnecessary and lazy remake anyway. This just makes it a nonstarter.

FluffCopter4

"We told you not to talk about how the game is made in this developer interview, we will discuss this further and fire you after the game's release."

Brendan4

They were not prepared for that follow-up question, clearly.

Sunni4

You know how they used to do that? Concept artists.

👉tired lesbian👈4

Won't be buying the game then, and lest anyone say "you probably weren't going to get it anyway":

Jesse4

Whether or not an asset is purely visual or if it is tied to gameplay should be an easy question and even though PR interrupted him, its very telling that he had to think about it for even a second. Im not defending the use of AI in any case, but being dishonest about it is worse.

✧TENROU✧DOLGO✧3

A game I will be never considering to play now

therealsigisig.bsky.social3

No art books of games for me anymore. This is what I hear.

Jace3

The argument that you've found a good use for it is silly. As if that negates the active stealing of art and fresh water, the forced integration, the ram hoarding 🙄 Aww, your job is hard. That's why you're paid. Otherwise, we can just cut the middleman CEO. They're not generating any value AI isn't

Paj3

And they are making it as easy as possible to not buy this game

jasonr86.bsky.social3

“Let’s see how the Mona Lisa looks in Lara’s mansion? Good? Ok. Now let’s get a human to draw a mustache on her.”

Some McFuckin Whale Thing3

At my wallet, we see not buying the game as an effective tool that actually teaches these fuckwits that no one wants their AI slop. Hope this helps. Fuck your game.

guillotine 🍉 destroy ice3

"we wanted to make it as easy for us as possible" by using stolen human-made art smh. video games (and all media like books, art, movies, etc) need to start being required to have official generative AI labels equivalent to how eggs are labeled. it was doomed the moment i saw amazon's name.

SpringtidePrince 🪻3

If your creative team is incapable of imagining and quickly sketching out original concepts, then they should be fired. It’s literally their job, and using genAI to do it is lazy and unethical on every level.

Clicky Buttons3

Crazy that they need AI to help remake a game for the, 3rd? 4th? Time

Rotorstorm Sam3

Is something is worth doing it's worth doing well, if it isn't worth doing you still shouldn't use generative AI

Pop Tartarus3

You know what it just sounds like? Like managers need to learn how to make stuff to communicate their views.

billfisto.bsky.social3

They'll feel more comfortable saying more after people have played it? Seems like their playbook is to apologize at how sloppy it is after people buy it, rather than letting people make an informed decision.

💜Martian War Machine💜 🏳️‍⚧️3

I was coping that this was a E33 situation where they just used really basic AI placeholders then removed them fully (still not a good thing). Now it's clear that it's so much worse than that. I will not give this game a cent let alone the €80-90 (minimum) I'm sure they want to leach from us each.

🔞Mx Wred's haunted brain🔞3

TLDR: "We refuse to trust the creative process and demand a finished product before the project has even begun. Nothing is original anyway and you idiot gamers will buy any slop we sell. BTW, there will be 7 digital casinos tied to your Visa card."

pixie muledonkey ♥3

That’s a team that doesn’t trust their concept artists to conceptualize things Or don’t want to pay concept artists as much because they’re “just cleaning up” pre-existing genAI slop output How much are they paying for the AI slop, & is that taking $ from the artists in that game budget?

Redregon ☽⛤☾3

And how many artists could have been hired for that job?

Professional Mr. Phann3

Skill issue, does he need ChatGPT to fuck his wife

RealAmanda 🍁3

We only dump a LITTLE bit of toxic waste, what's the big deal!?

Shaan Ali Khan3

Truly incredible he had no concept of how to even handle that follow up. Well done.

silver-thedragon.bsky.social2

Meanwhile when you’re doing that the data center is sucking water from communities that need it and its power draw puts more emissions in the atmosphere than some small countries. Fuck you for sacrificing the planet to make things easier for yourself. Fuck. You.

Atimisc2

Tell Jeff Adams he's an idiot and I'm not buying the game.

DJ Alpha Omega2

These developers feel embolden to do this garbage after last year's game awards & with more people selling out to support the AI slop. I don't care if it was removed or if it was just a placeholder asset, if they have used generative AI slop they won't have my support.

Joe2

You know what else helps with visualisation? A pencil and paper. Or a clay sculpture. Or an extremely basic wire frame. All have worked for decades, and decades of decades.

Captain Blackhook 🔞2

why take ideas from AI?

a hideous thing2

Always good to be able to save some money by not buying a game

Squiddokez2

Eh ill replay the reboot games screw this

Wolf Wraith Press2

He looks so mad lol

Tess AKA: Gertie2

Getting REAL SICK of this cop-out. Developers never needed AI for this shit before why now? It's genAI, it was used. We gotta stop letting them off the hook with this.

Hungry Wako2

Another studio to ignore, got it.

Joqatana2

“We don’t want to do any actual creating”

Shae 🏳️‍🌈2

Interviewer absolutely nailed that question

Sean “Shiroplayer1” Overstreet2

"at My Pocketbook, I can decide that use of GenAI is a reason I will not buy this game" Has a nice ring to it

flame2

wow what a weasel, clearly doesn't actually know how the game tools work or what anything means, just regurgitating talking points and completely breaks down confused when asked an actual question about the pipeline. Then for the cavalry to show up to save him from being awkward. Bravo.

OzTheBoss2

Cool, what dogshit this game is just because they wanted to use ai. Get fucked

psylah2

Cool cool cool it let you see that blue gems looked better than green gems. The water coming out of pipes in towns around data centers is fucking grey, man.

Cryptic_TX552

"can you explain in further detail"

Emma Kidwell | Looking for work ✨18

call her laura one more time

Zack Zwiezen7

"ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT AI?!?!"

Brittney Brombacher2

Legit had to do a double take at this pic 😂

Russel Pepper2

It’s aiming above and past you so you can also interpret it as Lara saying “don’t you ever speak to me and my daughter again” to someone out of frame

Ashley Esqueda2

If you were my height it would have looked like you were being held hostage haha

Robert / Zeboyd5

This got me thinking - is anyone in the indie space making anything inspired by old-school Tomb Raider? I know a lot of old-school RE games are in development, but I can't think of anything like TR.

Rambo Calrissian 🐀2

Imagining Tomb Raider as interpreted by the Psuedoregalia dev and quietly weeping that we'll never see such a thing.

Mega, regular edition11

No, fuck AI and fuck this.

V11

Massacring my girl with AI. 😔

Esfera6

No wonder is IAgen, I can't see shit with those animations.

Braaains Bro Ben! 🧠6

Hollup lemme count her fingers

Leonel Limones2

Tomb Raider hint of Max Payne

locutusoftrump.bsky.social2

fights? she kills velociraptors because she’s a psychopath.

NutshellGulag3

Yeah, make it modern pulp! Mad scientists, lost worlds, Castle In The Sky type stuff.

JRui_draws2

Oh, to be RayCroft and get that opportunity... Can't wait to hear what he has to say! But previews seem very positive!