Thames Water rescue deal blocked, nationalisation moves closer
Absolute chancers. Nationalise water. Now. And keep it in public hands forever.
"We think you should carry on giving us public money to top up profits for our shareholders, whilst we kill the chalkstreams, dump raw sewage on the beaches and let the system fail." Seems legit.
"Market led" It is a monopoly over a basic resource required for life.
Market? Like I can choose my water supplier?
Bald faced liars. one’s priorities cannot *remain* something that has not been a priority
Their priority is making as much money as possible. It has to be.
I hate this. We're constantly being rinsed for everything we have & we see no benefits whatsoever. No investment in infrastucture. How is it even possible that we routinely have drought warnings off the back of record wet winters? Oh, right, haven't built any reservoirs in about 50 years.
market-led? In what way is it 'market-led'? There is no market. It's basically a monopoly.
The absolute brazenness of describing the current subsidy funnel as "market led"
*our priorities remain producing as many dividend payouts to our investors as possible while doing the least possible in the way of providing water services. We have managed to put billions of debt on the company, while doing fuck all, so we could pay the best dividends possible. The money is gone!
How is this a “market”? Can I switch away from Severn Trent if I get a better deal from Welsh Water or higher quality from Thames Water?
Fed up with paying nearly £50 a month for undrinkable limescale filled water and endless local area leaks and burst pipes.
The 'stakeholders' should be the customers and environment, not the profit seekers.
My water company. They raised my bill from £19 per month to £50. There’s water leaking outside my house (what a waste) and the road floods every time it rains. They haven’t done any maintenance to the infrastructure in years and I see ads saying billions are being invested. Really? 🤔
They've been promising investment and infrastructure for thirty years, and here we are.
Well the "market-led solution" hasn't delivered for the last 25 years or whatever since it was privatised !! Thames should not only be nationalised immediately, the directors should be charged with theft of public money and locked up !!
And, if it is a "market led solution", how do I change my water services to a better, more ethical supplier? It's NOT a market, it's a set of regional monopolies.
😵That👆 is some ninja-level corporate bullshit.
Under the stewardship of this grasping mob, TW exists principally to enrich a few at a great, exponentially rising cost to others. It's a blatant scam. @goodlawproject.org have done great work in exposing the "too expensive to re-nationalise" argument as utterly bogus. #WeOwnIt
No way, it must be allowed to go bust. Not a penny to shareholders. The government then takes it over and nationalises it then. If it's nationalised now the shareholders will be looking for payback on their shares.
What a load of boardroom bullshit waffle.
Surely if things were market led that would mean letting them go bust and not giving them a penny of government money?
Handing an open-ended monopoly to a private equity company is not a market-led solution
Standard coporate PR bullshit. Any major corporate, in any industry could have written this chaff. Its doublespeak bollox of course. I would be surprised if it wasnt written by AI. The birds, The bees and the grass and trees know Water must be nationalised. It should have been done years ago.
As it always should have been
Feargal Sharkey explaining why it needn't cost the taxpayer a penny to nationalise water on the Bold Politics podcast. The video link starts with the explanation. www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPo3...
Whenever TW has been penalised in the past by OFTWAT they have simply passed the bill onto their captive customers. Yeah, that’s a powerful regulatory tool right there - not! Labour has surely completed its rebranding into Slavour by now?
Yes! We’re held hostage to having to pay whatever increase Thames Water dream up, without any option to move to another provider. It’s awful.
Yeah because what Thames Water have done so far is going so well 🤦♀️ www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/...
In private hands it will only ever be run for profit. A utility that everyone depends on should never be in private hands. Thank goodness I live in Scotland and have always had publicly managed water services.
Thames Water says the market-led solution is the best. Well, they would, wouldn’t they? It’s been great for the various parties who have been parasites on the company providing water to South London. Not at all good for water users in South London or the UK’s public finances.
It isn’t a market. We can’t choose a supplier for quality or price or better protection of resources. Nor should it be. Water must be publicly owned. Human rights not shares and dividends.
Bollocks. Water is not, and never can be, "market led".
Like fuck it is. Nationalise, cut the bosses pay drastically, pile all bills money into running and upgrading the infrastructure with no money going back to government until its fit for purpose
We put public ownership of water into our constitution.
Stakeholders...that would primarily be shared holders. All the other stakeholders including customers can go to hell.
I can think of another word beginning with C instead of 'chancers' 🤔
Privatisation only ever benefits the shareholders
TBF if I was CEO earning millions, I'd say that too.
How can there be a market when there's an absolute monopoly?
The only way you have options in "the market" for water is if you move house... Water companies are absolute scum of the earth and any politician who keeps water in private hands is no better.
The only two truthful words in this statement are "benefit" and "stakeholders".
Human turds in every river and kids dying from ingesting raw sewage is really selling me on "market led solutions"
bsky.app/profile/janf... Nope. Bollocks. Their ONLY priority is raping the system while pocketing as much moolah $¥€¢£ as they can steal! Nationalise water, power, & public transport NOW! And like Mr Polanski says, keep it in public hands forever. BTW it won't cost a single penny to nationalise
They've made it crystal clear they don't give a hoot about the environment or their customers.
More neck than a giraffe! They cannot go on thinking that they can remain a private company. They must have run out of lives?
Financial engineering enterprise says more financial engineering is the solution… in shock announcement… We, however just want to own our own water…it’s literally what we are.
they are lying about their priorities, they missed out their main priority and that is extracting profit from what should be a human right, they should be charged for all the water that is wasted or polluted due to years of neglect, the water system should belong to the people.
All these companies need to be taken to court and charged with negligence.
Of course they do, vested interest in filling their own pockets, while destroying our environment, economy and right to own our own natural resources rather than dubious interests of wealth and power outside our borders and to our detriment and possible economic slavery
Labour may renationalise but it will likely be temporary and they will allow assets to disappear and the guilty to escape any penalties. Sad to say Labour are not a decent party and are not likely to become one any time soon.
Thames water has a mountain of debt, they are seeking a sweetheart deal. Let them go bust then just take them over. The offshore companies that own it will bleat but who gives a toss
Translation: "We really like having a monopoly on a profit-making business which sells the most basic necessity of life to every household. And we promise you will never again find out how bad we are at dealing with the shit, both physical and political."
We remain of the view that profit should keep flowing into our coffers no matter what the quality/availability of the water or the damage we do to the environment
Those are certainly a lot of words put together in sentences.
They would charge for oxygen if they could
We need an Act of Parliament to allow renationalisations without compensation for ex-shareholders.
Amazing they feel confident enough to shamelessly express their “view”.
Starmer's government is so infuriating for their dithering on everything.
Their priorities remain on fucking over the public and extracting huge amount of cash to pay their shitty shareholders. Do they really think we believe this bullshit anymore 😅
And for how many years have Thames Water failed to keep up with their statement? Penalise and nationalise.
All the utilities have to be nationalised. No money should be given to any company. The government should recover all bonuses paid all these companies. Guess what octopus energy is increasing electricity and gass bills by 13%. Currently most electricity is obtained by renewables. Daily charge 61 p
No one quite says "we love our obscene profits" as well as Thames Water.
And we know which party you really work for, who will have priority over the rest: the stakeholders, who in turn reward the execs. Privatisation of public assets stinks, like the shit in our rivers.
"Pleas don't put us all out of a job and expose all the stuff we've been doing.
But the market led solution failed. The market only abstracted as much money as it could, as quickly as possible. Little investment and leaving huge expensive debts.
It’s a lie, there priority has always been their shareholders as evidenced by the level of debt they took on in order to keep paying dividends. The company is totally corrupt and should be nationalised without compensation.
"Market-led solution" What utter bollocks.
And not to sound like a broken record, but prior to 2016 (Brexit) due to strict EU environmental laws, Britain had award winning clean coastal and river waters. You have to ask yourself how much dark money did Mog, Johnson, Farage and the rest of them get from water companies…
Thames Water moves closer to nationalisation after govt objects to rescue deal. Govt concerned about public backlash to a deal that injects £3.35bn equity, more debt, exemption from fines and bigger customer bills. Let TW collapse, buy at knockdown price. Must end profit motive. Nationalise water
Government should either force TW to clean up its own act, at its shareholders expense, or buy it for £1. Nothing else is needed.
It's about time somebody in government did something positive. The question remains however.....what did Thatcherism actually achieve apart from making a certain tranche of society richer and the majority poorer?
If I have no ability to change supplier to a competitor then they have no Buisiness being a private company So nationalise all the water suppliers already. With electricity gas etc then nationalise the DNOs or equivalent
Throw 3.35 billion at it and the shareholders will see most of it! Just take it back off them, they have asset stripped from the start and shareholders have had the best deal not the customers!
Couldn’t agree more, what do people normally pay for bankrupt companies?
Should already have been put back in public ownership. It won’t cost billiobs to possess a bankrupt entity.
It was a con from the start let the government sell of your water to one or more of there pals let them run it into the ground get billions in bailout money kick back some to the political class raise the bills to pay it back then rinse n repeat. It's time we took back all privatised infrastructure
Emma Reynolds is trying to appear decisive. But special administration followed by a return to the private sector will only defer the problem. Let TW go bust, go for full nationalisation at no cost to the state, give the finger to private equity parasites. www.bbc.co.uk/news/article...
Water company priorities explained in one sentence and why Thames Water is a 💩 worthy only of being flushed down the pan of corporate history.
Reynolds was a lobbyist for the finance sector group TheCity UK. She also set up her own lobbying business before becoming an MP. Can you be an ex lobbyist?