Economists reject Unite leader Sharon Graham's claim about Ed Miliband
Ignore all the hysterical tabloid bullshit. Ed Miliband is a good choice for chancellor inews.co.uk/opinion/ever...
he would be a great choice, but prepare for 24/7 media hatred (Red Ed Steals Your Kids Money etc). Or just do it, go full on Leveson 2 and close down the Daily Mail. I'm in.
Agreed. As long as they backfill his current post with someone as smart and as enthusiastic about dealing with climate change. I’m unrepentant about voting for him as Labour leader back in the day.
I think Andy and Ed would make a good pair. Keir for Foreign Sec, if he would take it.
It's OK as long as whoever replaces him as the Secretary of State for Energy Security and Net Zero, is at least equally committed and knowledgeable.
Yes, why not? He’s been the stand-out minister in this government IMO. Vision and passion, with treasury experience too.
"There's only one reliable Chancellor left in Westminster. Ed Miliband. He beat his brother. He's in his prime. He's a tried and tested Labour leader. And he doesn't just talk about cutting carbon emissions, he does it."
If the people that thought Brexit was a good idea don't like him, there is a chance he is the right person.
Miliband also has more experience than many of working in a functioning government, definitely a quality I'd want in a chancellor. He's not the only one that brings that of course, but it's a big plus over someone like Streeting imho
I like Ed Milliband - always have I think I just said that out loud
Yes. What is WRONG with people?!
So we get rid of the best Chancellor we've had since Gordon Brown Who's Lowered inflation Lowered borrowing raised growth through the turbulent insanity of that idiot Trum Utter stupidity
What do you think of the idea of making Starmer Foreign Secretary? I'm not sure he'd want to but it has been the one part of being PM he's done well at
Just seen the Red Ed 💩 in my local paper shop in the Mail. Fck off Rothermere.
TBH he seems the best choice from current cabinet.
but he is an even better choice for Environmental Protection - he's put in the leg work
For much of the press, he'll always be Red Ed wherever he goes in govt, always trying to ferment sneaky Marxist revolutions. Ed now seems pretty at ease about the media's depiction of him & much more confident when explaining policy. This may be quite helpful in a Chancellor...
And so is Rachel Reeves, she understands finance and has done a good job,I can see no reason for her to be replaced.Milliband will not backtrack on inheritance tax and other policies.
I dunno… he’s fantastic where he is in Energy. If he leaves that job then he’ll need another person like him to take it over.
For what it's worth Andy Burnham allies I've spoken to do still believe he will go with Ed Miliband as Chancellor
He'd be a good choice. Anyone but Streeting... 🙄
No fucking compromises! Just go for it. Live or die by what you believe, Andy Burnham. Do.Not.Give.A.Shit.What.The.Right.Wing.Press.Write. (They'll slaughter you no matter what you do because you are not one of them).
Would be a good indicator to the bond markets that, no, they don’t actually get to appoint the cabinet.
Worth nowt at the moment as Burnham isn't the PM.
It'll be interesting to note how Milliband might seek to pursue green policies should he be installed as chancellor. I doubt he'll adopt anything like a radical approach but he did admit that during his stint as leader to being far too willing to go along with LP right-wing's neoliberal orthodoxy.
Ed HAS to stay as energy secretary.
Not forgetting he might need to get through a leadership election first.
Streeting is British politics' Walter Mitty. 81 fantasy nominations. Loud claims to participation in conversations that take place in his absence and in which he's not mentioned. When the only evidence for the things Streeting says is the fact that he's saying them, perhaps he's best ignored.
Could be a game-changer for our environment
I don't think "soft-left leader probably needs soft-left Chancellor" is a mad position. Streeting probably needs a decent role to honour Burnham's talk of pluralism, but Foreign Office makes more sense than outsourcing economic policy to a bloke who has spent a decade disagreeing with you.
I bloody well hope so.
So is AB definitely the next PM?
Burnham is keeping Mahmood, he is going to be hated just like Starmer... He won't change anything. 🥀
I hope you're right. You can't beg for the green vote and put someone like Streeting in No 11.
So we're moving back to government by a load of blokes from Labour Party past. Great
Ooh hope so. Dream team combining the relative strengths of each; ideas, policy nous, implementation and communication, and ideologically aligned.
Does Reeves deserve the chop though? Feels very partisan. I would want to see a clear gap between her and Miliband to make it worthwhile
I think reeves needs to go if we can break from the disastrous no change to tax promise
Who’s he going to appoint to get us back in the EU? Oh.
Still hoping he fucks over Wes and slings him to back-bench obscurity
I think the unions are fundamentally wrong about Ed Miliband and i think people on this website dont understand what an union is
the unions are not instruments to do good and bring progress for all mankind. their job is to advocate for their workers. they are not gonna back the guy with the "i think this industry needs to be dismantled" platform. they just wont
I am a member of union almost entirely out of self-interest and I am surprised more people can’t admit that to themselves
It also shows a profound lack of historical sense. The unions have frequently blocked progressive changes over the decades!
It's a sort of Nice Things club you join if you're a Good Person like everyone here believes themselves to be.
Yeah 100%- they have to earn their membership fees and I think most progressive people just assume everyone would be a member out of ideological reasons! I’ve never used my union but effectively treat it like an insurance scheme
Yeah, I can’t believe the Boilermaker’s Union is against phasing out boilers
this is correct but I also think the unions have been spectacularly shit about recruiting in sectors that really need unionisation particularly the gig economy where pay is really marginal
As a non union person but who is sympathetic- i find their language is often alienating. Choice of words can sound very "1970s" and narrowly self-interested, RMT in particular
my first job I had to pay money to the SDA, the union (Joe de Bruyn) that happily allowed John Howard (John Howard!!!) wedge Labor on LGBT rights
I think it’s a miners’ strike nostalgia thing in the UK - the left (which I am!) have an unhealthy love of a romantic defeat.
Ah, Unite the ‘pervasive fraud environment’* Union. *BDO audit report www.bbc.co.uk/news/article...
People forget they evolved out of guilds - which were designed to exclude people from practicing a craft in order to protect incomes.
it was surprising to hear Unite's Sharon Graham criticize Ed Miliband's record as 'job destroying' climate activism. We hope she reconsiders, on a day where UK is under extreme heat warnings. The climate crisis is real, we need a Chancellor who fights it. www.theguardian.com/politics/202...
TBH, I don't want him as chancellor, because he's doing a good job where he is and it's so a vital one at the moment. I hope someone else gets picked for chancellor and Ed Milliband can go quietly back to sorting shit out.
Sharon is barking at the wrong tree- there are many jobs in renewables too.
Some of these old leftists are dinosaurs.
Putting aside that Ed Miliband is, of course, the modern equivalent of a Nigerian dictator, he is the logical choice for Chancellor because: A) he has treasury experience. B) he has made the transition to government well. C) Net zero is the closest thing Labour has to an economic policy.
GB Energy, or whatever he ended up calling it, also functions enough like the Greater Manchester Investment Fund, providing sympathetic funding to help derisk private projects, that it is the closest thing the government has to "Manchesterism" writ large.
D) Net Zero is the closest thing Labour has to a defence policy. E) Net Zero is the closest thing Labour has to an industrial strategy
... run that first bit by me again?
One of the things that’s never clear with these constant attacks on net zero and Ed Miliband is what Badenoch et al think would actually happen if the UK were to scrap its decarbonisation efforts? www.theguardian.com/politics/202...
The assumption seems to be that if you repeal the Climate Change Act gas and energy costs would suddenly plummet, industry would return, the global clean tech boom would stop, and climate change would turn out to be no big deal. Is there anyone serious who thinks that is even vaguely plausible?
They really are flat earthers who should be locked up like the terrorists they really are “Reform leader, Nigel Farage, will address the conference on Wednesday” and deny climate catastrophe on the day temperatures in London will break records. Chuck away the key
Imagine having to say that the Uk needs to stick to Net Zero during a 40'C heatwave. OF COURSE WE NEED TO STICK TO NET ZERO YOU DRIBBLING HALFWITS www.theguardian.com/environment/...
Want your electric bills to fall, even when the next despot decides to do a war? The invest in renewables! www.yahoo.com/news/world/a...
And you don’t have to squeeze sunshine or wind through a shooting gallery like the Strait of Hormuz. This is Father Ted/Father Dougal level shit.