Matt Damon says he used a female stunt double in The Odyssey
Nolan has a reputation as a somewhat conservative filmmaker but it is REALLY HARD to see The Odyssey as anything other than a direct rebuttal to the rise of xenophobic culture wars. It is LITERALLY about reconnecting to human decency and grace via a wildly diverse cast in one of The Great Stories
Like Elliot Page plays the single most tragic figure in the film, the first person Odysseus lies to, and the person whose death and fury forms the emotional crux of the entire conclusion. He cast A TRANS DUDE in that role in the year of our lord 2026. And that's just one of the swings!
I have a lot of thoughts about the decision for the whole cast having American accents RE our history of warmongering, killing civilians, etc that I simply do not have room to properly express in skeet form. But it made me deeply emotional
The twist that it was Odysseus' men and the Greeks that were the Men From The Sea was SUCH a great turn, like a Republican terrified of stochastic terrorism in his community realizing it's being carried out by him and his Proud Boy buddies
The more I’ve thought about it, the more Elliot Page’s role seems poignant to our times. That Odysseus’ original sin, and therefore the original sin of the post-bronze modern age, is the death of a trans person and the fundamental tragedy that echoes through all of history is deeply harrowing.
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Bottom line: Who cares what he thinks. He's a thoroughly rotten person. Let him seethe all he wants. And by the way, Musk... Go jump.
If he's unhappy, he should spend $1B to make his own version of the Odyssey, with Jon Voight, James Woods, Scott Baio, Nicky Manaj, Mel Gibson, Sylvest Stallone, Kid Rock, Rob Schneider, and Kelsey Grammar. David Mamet to direct.
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In my heart, I really don’t want to see The Odyssey, despite Cultural Currency, because it looks like boring Jason and the Argonauts painted very brown. Someone should put Jason and the Argonauts on in cinemas again, to cash in. I’d go and see it like a shot.
Paddington and the Argonauts. £350m box office guaranteed
The Cyclops and Samantha Morton bits are worth the price of entry alone.
I'm kind of glad I saw it, but it's a bit dark, mumbly, and full of quick cuts for my aged brain to cope with. The funniest thing was my daughter explaining the story to me (which she'd googled that morning), give that the Iliad and Odyssey made up at least half of my Ancient Greek O-Level.
It's a lot more colourful than the trailer and I really enjoyed it honestly.
General consensus - including my own opinion - is that it's good but missing that extra edge to make it a whole satisfying masterpiece. The scene with Circe is pure astonishing unfolding horror in A Company Of Wolves/American Werewolf In London way. While another sequence felt very 28 Years Later.
Talos was my first crush. Such an amazing film.
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The acting and dialogue were fucking trash IMO
The kind of movie I'd love to see, but I'm afraid, really afraid... Fantastic story, great actors and director. It has everything to be an epic. But the chance that it has been ruined by “adding depth to the characters” or “sending a message” is greater than ten cyclopes put together.
The dog deaths though. I was more invested in Atlas than the main characters tbh
I liked it, but definitely veers from the original. I can get with the accents but the crowbarring of talk of “the sea peoples” and everyone recognizing they were in the Bronze Age was a bit much. Also could have had more Greek like costumes. Still good.
Like the curates egg, it’s good in parts. Wonder whether it’s simply relying upon Nolan’s reputation or is genuinely enjoyed by most. At least we can probably all agree it’s always worth trying to make an epic even if it doesn’t land perfectly.
Too long, deviates from the original myth, Achilles is missing which is very wrong, could be considered just another Matt Damon film by some people. It is though a fantastic spectacle rather than a good story. No Odyssey 2 though please, like Gladiator 2, that would be a terrible mistake.
After I was blown away by a late night IMAX screening of The Odyssey, I wrote an essay on why on how critics of its cast diversity and Americanisms are dead wrong. But not for the reasons you may think. READ: https://loom.ly/ezKuYB4
Great write-up. Thank you for doing it. I just wanted to say that I believe strongly that the number of voices complaining about the cast's diversity is actually quite small, but that the number of bots on social media and podcasters have created the mirage that it's sizable enough to matter.
I saw it in 70mm IMAX tonight and it was incredible. I love the way he weaved the story together, and the end was a gut punch long in the making. Zeus's Law indeed. Wow. It has a lot to say about the present moment.