The Odyssey dominates summer film discourse
I have seen the Odyssey and my main takeaway is that it’s time to give John Leguizamo an award for not only being great but singlehandedly improving EVERY FILM HE IS IN.
The Harry Dean Stanton Memorial Award?
Loved him in Baz Luhrmann's Romeo + Juliet.
This is the first post that's given me motivation to see The Odyssey.
Good point and lead me to this question: bsky.app/profile/abil...
Has one of the best lines in the first John Wick.
His one-man shows are amazing. And honestly, my favorite movie role of his was Chi-Chi in To Wong Foo.
The animators' delegation sees your motion to create and confer an award on John Leguizamo and votes unanimously in favor of your proposal.
I'm aware this is probably sacrilegious but John Leguizamo's scenes are my favorite part of John Wick. 😬😁
Super Mario Bros. (1993) The defense rests, Your Honor.
I’ve met people who think TO WONG FOO… is a great movie and they’re wrong but it’s an understandable mistake because John Leguizamo is so blindingly terrific in it ⭐️
This is a more than reasonable assessment. I haven’t even seen the film.
I agree. Could you imagine THE PEST without John Leguizamo?
new Oscar category JUST FOR HIM let's gooooo
He has become a fantastic supporting actor. You see him in John Wick and Nancy and you can’t believe it’s the same dude.
A good reason for people to watch the film Leguizamo should've been nominated for last year, BOB TREVINO LIKES IT.
Nothing but respect for my Luigi Mario
I cannot rest from discourse. I will see that film again tomorrow. I will drink life to the lees. Again I will enjoy greatly, will suffer greatly, both with those that love me, and in Pleasantville NY. I am become a meme. Film showing: burnsfilmcenter.org/booking/the-...
Tell me about a complicated woman. Muse tell me how she translated and then became a meme When she reviewed the blockbuster work of Nolan.
This is the discourse primeval, the murmuring feuds and the haters… (just adding because some seem to want to discuss meter, which is great!)
Have you purchasid the Trojan Horse poppe-corne bucket?
And did those feet, in ancient times Walk upon New York's mountains flat? And did the noble ship of Greece Dock at Ithaca's automat?
this is the most Homeric confrontation of 2026 the muse of literature takes on the son of iMax 😉😆👍🏼
Calling it EyeMax in honor of poor Polyphemus.
Ok, that is impressively amusing.
The way I would drive to Pleasantville NY, wherever the heck that is, just for the discourse, except that this is already sold out, even though our offices are walking distance from each other IRL, is very real
I may not fully agree with her take, but I absolutely fully endorse her commitment to the bit.
We can get so much more mileage out of this.
If I ever become a main character of discourse, I hope I can be a tenth as cool about it as Emily Wilson.
I love that she's having fun with this.
This, finally, is a beautiful example of Posting Through It 👏
New epithet: poster of spirit
Tristíssima por não poder ir ver a Odisseia com direito de logo em seguida presenciar a própria Emily Wilson malhando o filme.
My vibe for the rest of the summer, and indeed for the rest of my life
Saw the Odyssey and it’s hilarious right wingers really waged Wacht am Rhein over characters with a combined screen time of 20 minutes, no wonder Nolan is going to get a billion
Not my favorite Nolan film but I’m biased as a history nerd in favor of Dunkirk and Oppenheimer but still vintage imo, 10/10 recommend
I heard he’s already working on a sequel
These are the same kind of crybabies who soiled their huggies because Fury Road had... *eeek!* A girl in it!!!!
Fitting that their arguments ran out of gas and they were forced to retreat from their positions
Ironically digital Wacht am Rhein went just as well for the Nazis as real Wacht am Rhein.
When the Odyssey was composed, the black African Kingdom of Kush was one of the most powerful empires near Greece. Meanwhile, the ancestors of the tech bros were still in the stone age and living in mud huts in faraway northern Europe.
Look how much joy people have got out of arguing about The Odyssey this week. I have whole friendships based on the fact we loved the same books and TV shows. And it can be great and invigorating when you disagree. Why would I want something that’s just about me? Boring
On a political level this process of cultural atomisation that fragments shared bonds of understanding and trust between people is something authoritarian regimes want in order to prevent the emergence of mass collective action against them.
Is it that they don't understand art, or that they don't understand having friends?
Yes. And one of the great joys of literature is finding a passage that names an experience or emotion you've had - "Yes, yes, that's it! I've always thought/felt that, but I never would have been able to articulate it in that way." It's finding the nugget of gold while you're sifting through grit.
Conversations about personalised books/films/tv are going to be like people swapping descriptions of their dreams.
I don't think they can conceive of a world where they're not at the centre of it, and they want their media to be the same, and assume everyone else is as emotionally impoverished as they are.
I'm going to watch The Odyssey this afternoon. I'm sure I'll find plenty in it that resonates with me, because I too have had unsatisfactory experiences with the satnav.
whether or not nolan christianized the odyssey i think he's using his adaptation of it to respond to some extremely christian (protestant) ideals and shortcomings, in a really instructive way
reading (and enjoying) this as a partial explanation of what you could call the general unsubtlety of his work
I thought it was entertaining that he was a bit taken aback by the observation of this film being Christianized, he did not "intend" for that but it's obvious the ways western and Christian culture have shaped him/his storytelling nonetheless
interesting that repentance here is a purely internal mechanism that stops short of deed
It's *extremely* Nolan to be like "does personal change matter in a movie? Well it doesn't change the physical world so I would say no." Lol
Having watched the interview i think he's a little too cute about atonement, the film and characters are interested in atonement, that's what the whole "travel to the west to honor the dead" bit is! Its an act of atonement! But otherwise it's clear he thought hard about what he was doing
protestant christianity puts so much emphasis on the state of your individual heart and whether or not you repent is a massive vehicle for that--all that matters is the state of your heart and whether its of a sufficient purity and nolan is basically like hey man all your friends are still dead
god I wish more directors got to talk about their movies like this, I wish we let more interviewers ask real questions
What’s YOUR 🫵 favorite film adaptation of Homer’s The Odyssey?
It was between this and Norbit and looking back it should have been Norbit but you can’t live in the past you need to do what you can
“damn, we’re in a tight spot”
“I’m the goddammed pater familias!”
armand assante one bc of the gay little dance he does during the cyclops scene. we watched it in my mythology lit class in HS and all of us would walk around doing the gay little dance as a meme
"Spider-Man: No Way Home," our friendly neighborhood Wall-crawler went on quite the odyssey in that film.
I’m glad we had a Riccisance made some good investments or something so she doesn’t have to be in Nick Swardson movies anymore
Just want to note re the Odyssey controversy that EW has written a thread about the film, a long piece, a thread summarizing the piece, an addendum with a couple of regrets, and has also done a podcast about her essay. Each approach is tonally different from all the others, and together...
they're a great example of critical/cultural code-switching--how those of us who write/think about this stuff for a living shift between different modes/tones/voices; we try to suit each one to its form. It's not hypocritical or inconsistent. It's...multilingual. Sorry to get serious. As you were.
Has the ice show been announced yet?
My husband finally took me to see The Odyssey on date night. Forget Emily Wilson’s snarky review, a perfect allegory for our times. I am not a classicist but much prefer Nolan’s tortured Odysseus than a wily cunning one, artistic license people. And no it did not need more sex or better food!
And I thought her dismissal of the non white actors stank.
To complain about an old epic fiction poem is epic, and old.... We really have only a vague idea about those times.
Hard agree. Having now seen the film, I’m quite bothered by her unwarranted attack on it
As a Classicist, I would say it is rather uneven. Circe and the Ithaca and Underworld scenes were outstanding; really dropped the ball with Polyphemos (the Cyclops) and Calypso. Thought Eliot Page did an amazing turn as Sinon. Would strongly recommend those interested read Book 2 of the Aeneid.
So cool to learn that you are in The Odyssey, @johnales.bsky.social, playing Irus (Arnaeus), the beggar of Ithica. I can't say I recognized you among the beggars in those shadowy scenes, but in hindsight, knowing that you are in this epic film is very impressive, indeed. Congrats! 🎬👏🏼
I saw The Odyssey with my wife & two 20-year-olds. Afterwards, as they discussed it, I sat silently, still under the spell of this epic, mythological tale of lore and phantasmagoria. I found myself deeply moved spiritually by the eternal struggles of the human condition. 🙏🏼🌍🕊️
I miss him here, but I guess he was busy for a while.