PISA 2025 finds widespread declines; Spain posts worst-ever result
New PISA data out England is now top ten in all three areas (reading, maths, science) and the second highest performing country outside of east Asia (after Estonia). This is a huge public policy success.
Devolution created a natural experiment here and we have the results. bsky.app/profile/tom-...
Cannot fathom how the gov want to dismantle this on the pretence that education is somehow driving youth unemployment.
What does PISA measure? Could it be that some countries do things that PISA likes and others do it differently? Serious question because I don't know but I do think it's a hard, perhaps subjective, thing to assess.
I started teaching in 2011 and I loathed Michael Gove. Looking back, he got so much right. Education is the single biggest ( maybe only) policy achivement of that 14 year era.
we’re so successful at integration that some of our second generation immigrants are now prominent far right anti-immigrant politicians.
What do you make of the caveat on sampling? “But the pupils who didn’t respond were “slightly more likely” to speak English as a first language, to have been eligible for free school meals in the last six years and to receive a form of special educational needs support.”
One reason England does so well is our second generation immigrants outperform their peers which is not true in most OECD countries. We are also very good at integration. And it's v sad that this is never acknowledge in debates on immigration.
It continually blows my mind the sheer number of obviously crackers ideas and excuse-making for failure from the last government that Labour have gone “seems legit!”…while at the same time Labour refuses to acknowledge the real, measurable success in education.
"England's schools consistently outperform Finland's ones" is another one of those public policy things where people's priors are massively out of date, isn't it?
And, amazingly, every political party thinks education needs a huge shake-up
On days like this, thank heavens for not-so-small mercies!
Fundamentally understated that, despite *gestures* we are a very well educated country
Best good news story on the day!
Lots of journos analysing this very badly Recent public policy for 6 year olds won't have had an effect on the scores of 15 year olds lol Seems like England have got near the top by excluding more pupils from the stats than anyone else
This IS a huge success but we also have a staggering number of children unable to access this high quality education under the current system too. Feels like the two come as a pair.
And yet Labour are messing with this as higher education falls over totally
Sans surprise, le ministre de l'éducation arrive à expliquer qu'après dix ans de macronisme, les mauvais résultats Pisa sont la faute de tout le monde, sauf de l'État. www.lemonde.fr/societe/arti...
Sans surprise, le manager toxique met la faute sur ses subordonnés, alors qu'il a pourtant tout fait : il a supprimé les moyens pour les pousser à être inventifs, il les a traînés dans la boue H24 "pour les sortir de leur zone de confort", il les a sous-payés, bref il a tout bien fait !
Ça serait super d'avoir des adultes responsables à des postes de pouvoir, ça changerait de ces grands enfants pour qui les actes n'ont aucune conséquence.
Ah non, c'est mieux que ça "Édouard Geffray pointe notamment les réseaux sociaux, «arme de destruction intellectuelle massive»"
Macron pourrait être à son 5eme mandat que ça jouerai encore les surpris à chaque problème
C’est pas comme si ce ministre avait été directeur de l’enseignement scolaire pendant 5 ans 🙃
Ces mecs ont passé 10 ans à tuer l'école et ils sont là "ah merde qui a bien pu faire ça !?"
They'll be a lot of chatter about England's PISA results this morning, but we need to talk just as much about Wales. They rejected phonics and knowledge-rich curricula in favour of 'areas of learning', 'skills suites' and barely any testing. Wales is now 40 points below England in every domain.
I'm also pretty convinced that Wales allowing schools to design their own curriculum to encourage them to "build their own vision for their learners" and provide "space for practitioners to be creative" is not a sensible way to improve national standards or build pupils' knowledge and understanding.
Unless they are teaching phonics at 12 years old, those changes wouldn’t have impacted 15 year olds in 2025. The new curriculum removed assessments for primary schools. The 15 year olds in 2025 weren’t in primary schools when the new curriculum was introduced.
I’m still interested in the so what for this, though… Do we think it will materially affect their GDP? Or is it possible they traded results for a more chill life and it has no real effect?!
I'd be very worried about bilingualism being scapegoated in all this. That doesn't seem to be where the problem is but it won't stop some people trying.
Requiring primary schools to teach phonics and times tables can both improve overall results and fail a significant minority of pupils. For instance dyslexic children are taught they are stupid and failing as they cannot learn phonics or memorise times tables. Taught other ways they can excel.
Is it potentially affected by other factors, however? For example, in England second-generation immigrants pupils out-perform non-immigrant pupils. What if Wales has a lower proportion of such pupils? Just one possible example, maybe not the best. assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6a9ea5...
Devolution created a natural experiment here and we have the results. bsky.app/profile/tom-...
wales aside... I guess having some point of comparison is better than none, but I think pisa scores (and standardized testing in general) are kind of silly -- you can absolutely study for the test, and many countries are laser focused on this
You couldn’t get a better and more comparable mass experiment in the real world than this. The conclusions are clear, and yet the action is going in the wrong direction. bsky.app/profile/tom-...
Devolved governments really fuck up education, don't they? Why? Default rejection of what works because England does it and they have a political need to differentiate from the national government?
Education is not a short term project. You see the results after a very long time. but these are good results, which will be positive for our society, economy and politics for the next generation.