Valve prices Steam Machine starting at $1,049; reservations open
For @aftermath.site, I reviewed the Steam Machine. It costs $1049 base. It is beautifully designed. It might be one of the most important computers ever made, launched at the worst time imaginable. aftermath.site/steam-machin...
If you are curious what the rough ballpark of what the Steam Machine would have landed at, the team at Valve said a good indicator is the recent price bump the Steam Deck got. Extrapolate the math there and you have a good idea of the range of their intended target.
I wish this weren’t repeated uncritically. It doesn’t make any fucking sense here and they deserve to be called out for it. If they subsidized this hardware and let users choose software it would have the effect they claim to want. The fact that other subsidized hardware is closed is meaningless.
really great review Chris. Answered a lot of the questions I had regarding the practicalities and “who could this be for”
The absolute happiness vacuum that is the tech industry is ridiculous. Even my spec sheet which is pretty conservative clocked in at 2900 USD, but it's just so hard to justify anything over 1000 when it's something like this and not just a full blown computer outright. It deserved better!
As much as I'm unhappy about the price it'd still be 1. A major space saver compared to my current desktop 2. A relative upgrade to my current 8 year old PC which is starting to show its age 3. Finally going to let me get away from the Windows ecosystem instead of just linux on a spare laptop.
Interesting that it's now in the price range of the Framework desktop with 32GB of unified RAM and a better CPU, though that needs storage added on. I wonder how they compare in gaming performance in Steam OS
At even $700 this would have been a game changer. At $1,049 it's going to be a historical footnote we talk about like we do the NeoGeo and CD-i.
It is what it is. I honestly think it's a good price for the current hellscape of electronics we live in but people are reeling at the 4 figures or smugly saying they think they can get a prebuilt PC box for the same price which I am like LOL, no they can't.
An excellent piece despite the distressingly interesting times we live in
Awaiting the follow-up piece: "Here's how to build your own Steam Machine with parts ordered directly from the manufacturer's warehouse in Taiwan."
dang it, I want the gabecube so bad, I hate those ai perverts so much for making computers so expensive
God, yeah. Prices keep going up so I can’t afford this shit anymore. But it looks like something I would want… if salaries had kept up with inflation at all for the past decade.
Oh shit, you guys got a review unit! Congrats, man.
If your current system now costs $5500 without a case I am curious as all hell as to what you're running, because I can still get approximately the same system I have now for only around a $600 premium over when I built it in 2023 ...
The quotes you got about the pricing have such a weary, resigned undertone to them, I don't think the last six months have been a ton of fun for that team.
Gen-AI and LLMs are why this is so expensive. Anyone using AI is banned from ever using a Steam Machine. Fuck AI, and fuck you if you support AI.
Huge fan of this article. In the interest of raising awareness of an issue, I'll say that Marathon and Destiny 2 would both work fine on Linux, as other games with BattlEye do Bungie just disallows this as a matter of policy. Protections are in place in Proton to prevent the games from booting.
this is a great review, man!
Cube shaped computers have always been awesome and cursed at the same time.
If things were normal this would be an instant purchase.
Love the article, for so many reasons. What is so frustrating to me is that the price will never go down - even after this bubble pops, Valve as an org (the whole supply chain really) will just say "Consumers paid y price before, they'll still pay y price and we'll profit more" This is the future.
given component prices currently I really don’t think this is a terrible price. I hope they’ll lower the price in the future when ram prices normalize though. I’m currently debating on whether to get one of these or spend a little more to build a custom sff pc
I appreciate how lovingly you described the Steam Machine in this. On paper to me it's a more powerful version of what you can accomplish with a Steam Deck and Dock but I now appreciate it as a vision of a better living room PC future. It's gone from "I'm not getting one" to "but I would if I could"
good article but i'm a bit confused why you are correctly saying that the price of the thing is to be faulted on AI companies, but then go on to praise FSR 4.1, an AI product from AMD, one of the AI companies responsible for this. i don't see why we can't just accept a game being a bit lower res?
Currently gaming on my main PC hooked up to the tv (10900K and 3070 with 8gb of vram) if it weren't for that vram bottleneck I could play everything in 4K with DLSS, but the distance from the TV makes it so 1440 and 1080 are fine for more demanding titles. Would the steam machine be better?
Excellent review, thank you. I might actually be part of the target audience for this--my desktop is long in the tooth, and my computing needs are taken care of by a MacBook these days. This might just be a good alternative to keep access to my Steam library while shifting away from my desktop.
Any chance streaming services will start releasing Steam apps? I want something like this to replace my streaming box. I get the Linux portion would probably allow for this, but my 7-year-old needs to be able to use it the way she can launch a game in the Steam Deck.
Oof, $1000USD is $1400CAD…and no we don’t make more per year here. I looked at making a mini pc and it came out to around $1800. But at least I could upgrade eventually!
Damn this makes me sad.
Could I ask, you seemed optimistic in the article about the future of the device, but from inflation to oil to graphics cards to AI, it seems to me the future is bleak. Perhaps this machine, this price is only going to get worse. Assuming I interpreted correctly why are you so optimistic?
after getting my steam controller v2 I am sold absolutely on the valve console renaissance. What do you mean I can play very easily play dwarf fortress on my big tv???
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I knew the way this was gonna be priced wasn't your fault but HOLY FUCK
Man, this would've been so cool. Fuck AI.
Thank you guys for really giving this a solid effort. I do genuinely believe there is a market for a device like this… …just not at nearly $1100 for the low-spec model. I know the global supply didn’t comply, but this is just not tenable for customers.
This gives me hope for the steam frame actually I was expecting base price to be like $1800
(not valve's fault though, one of the few companies to still be decent)
Gaming is quickly becoming a luxury only upper class individuals can afford. Normal people really are just being priced out of this shit lol
I'll wait for the price drop.
AI causing high RAM prices FUCKED this thing up
512 GB $1049 512 GB + Controller $1128 1 TB $1349 1 TB + Controller $1428 Valve, you needed to eat the costs of the Steam Machine. The price for many is not worth a casual LR gaming PC that is less or equal to the PS5 and Xbox.
You would think since they take a third of all money from every single game on the platform, they could afford to eat the cost. But oh well, guess they don't want it to actually have market share.
Honestly, you guys should do this
The pricing, we know why...but still
Long term, this is DOA. It'll sell out initially, due to Valve fanboys and Youtube Content Creators, but after that? It's gonna be regularly in stock like the Steam Deck, because the majority cannot justify paying that price to performance.
Never gonna pay those prices for stuff my computer already does.
Valve rn: (Btw props on the queue randomizer and telling people if they can't get a Steam Machine that you can do it yourself)
can't blame you. just don't shutter it if people barely buy it right now, i'm sure people will be more willing when the prices get slightly less screwed.
more than 1,000 for a 'game console' in this economy?? 😂😂😂
Going with USB A instead if C is an interesting choice for ports.
Phew, let's make a deal: we preorder regardless of the current price escalation, but you pre-install Half-Life 3 on every Machine? 🥺
Not with those prices. Lmfao
Given the circumstances, the price is very fair. Fuck AI tho
You know I generally like your stuff Valve, but we gotta buy groceries.
alright just let me buy some lottery tickets first and I'll let you know
Be honest Valve Bluesky Account, if you find yourself alone in a locked room with Sam Altman how much will be left of him after you're done
Hey @valvesoftware.com! Any plans to start selling your hardware devices in Norway? Right now it's really tricky and requires jumping through a bunch of gray area hoops. Best regards from a veteran fan since Half-Life ❤️
One of those things where you can get better specs for the price points. But nothing really beats how small it is. But also most people don't need a small build. Hopefully once the AI bubble pops the price will go down.
Absolutely not with that price point I'm sorry. Fuck what AI is doing to tech and the world btw.
I have no desire for a windows machine but would consider this. Even at the price.
Man that's a bummer, I've wanted one since it was announced but that's way too expensive.
dang, good on valve for changing how they are selling this to limit scalpers!
UK: £1208.00 2TB with Controller, sorry its a pass for me.
Can't do it homies, sorry. This is way above my budget.. and I was already willing to stretch it a little bit It isn't Valve's fault, and I hope this doesn't discourage them from pushing forward with hardware, but there's no way I can spend that much money right now. Gaming is so messed up rn
I was really looking forward to this but at that price no way! I understand it’s out of your control but it’s still insulting. Glad I can stop reading rumors about it now.
would not pay that much for those specs lmao
Yay, great, so... Are Puertoricans gonna be able to order it..? And be sent to Puerto Rico..?
LMAO I am NOT paying that price for a console. I don't care if it's AI's fault - you are a multi-million dollar company. You should know when to take a loss for a console for the profit of the games. Unbelievable.
Crazy price and what it seems the specs are not much better than an actual similar price PC.
Looks like I'll be extra delicate with my Steam Deck until the price of the Machine of Frame(when released) goes down. I know the price of RAM and the "AI" scam is the main cause, but I'm afraid this is well outside of most people's price range. Many of us want this hardware. We cannot afford it.
1k for a mid gaming box sorry but I'll wait for the price to drop
the price aint that bad
I bet the original price was gonna be half that if not more before all the ai shit made every electronic device more expensive than America healthcare
LOL to all the analysts and content creators who proposed it would be $800.00.
are you out of your mind
YEAH I'm gonna wait until the price cut when the RAM bubble pops
I know that jaw-dropping price tag isn't your fault, but if Gabe can afford a yacht and a mansion, then he can afford to take a loss on your latest hardware.
i'm sorry i am not paying that amount good on the ones who can tho
So, if you buy the controller, it costs 100 bucks, but with the machine, it's "only" 70. Smart move, guaranteed to piss off all your early adopters.
One thing I am excited about is what Valve could include with the system. The Vive had Half Life Alyx and Steam Deck had Aperture Desk Job. What could the Steam Machine or even Frame bring? Even if it’s just a tech demo.
I am the market for this: I love PC gaming but haven’t been involved for years due to time and cost and space. AI has fucked me out of enjoying PC gaming for the foreseeable future, probably forever.
Steam Machine is here, but "Half-Life 3 is here" when?
512GB for $599 is steep, but I guess it's a start. What's the real draw here, though - the Steam Controller or the PC in a box?
Valve - “starting with the SteamOS 3.8 release, you can put together your own Steam Machine using whatever PC parts you want.” www.theverge.com/games/953411...
This is probably more significant than the actual hardware release in the long run!
Considering how expensive the Steam Machine is I doubt anyone's going to be upset not securing a reservation for one. It's out of Valve's control obviously.
It was already possible to install SteamOS on a normal PC before... but with a big fat asterisk So, seeing that support is being expanded and can be installed anywhere, is a victory I have been recommending CachyOS for a while, but I can't wait to do the same with SteamOS
This is awesome and I hope it eventually leads to better Nvidia support for Linux
This is what I did last week. Built one w/ a 9600X/9070XT/32GB DDR5/4TB SSD (luckily already had the SSD) for only a few hundred more than the actual Machine, put it in a Fractal Ridge case, and loaded SteamOS. Works perfectly with my Steam Controller, including waking from sleep.
NVIDIA does not seem to be playing ball
Well there's my sign to finally replace the Bazzite install on my Steam box with SteamOS like I've been thinking about for a while
steampunk guy who keeps getting disappointed by the latest "steam machine" news
just slamming his stovepipe hat with goggles attached to it on the ground in fury
I was promised an Infernally Devious Contraption
Nodding along about high ram prices, but thinking it’s to do with highland cattle
"There's no brass gears on this thing at all. This sucks"
Hey if we have to be disappointed with it, he should, too.
Someone check on Tick and Tock (like a clock)
he can't mute mentions of "steam machine" from his feed because then he might miss out on the good stuff. also because he doesn't have a conventional phone. it's a big doohickey with a couple whatzits, gizmos, and a radio antenna so strong he'll have DNA damage in 5 years
I keep seeing this and thinking its a Daft Punk thing and getting disappointed
are you buying a 2 TB Steam Machine OR an entire pallet of Chicken Flavor instant ramen?? (2,880 individual 3 oz packets: bit.ly/3SD0iAQ #ad)
The latter. Steam should focus more on making more of their games compatible with Mac OS instead, especially Halo MCC for example, given how they shot themselves in the foot (yet again).
I know the point is how bonkers the SM is, but at the same time, I also need to rant that plain-ass ramen noodles, the poster food for I Am A Broke Human Being, at bulk, still comes out to $.56 a packet. Even the poor people food is getting expensive
bsky.app/profile/wari... Is like to remind people that there are multiple deals today that can functionally get you a Switch 2 for less than $400 before tax if you buy through Nintendo.
Considering I hate the chicken flavor no… but shrimp though
Make it either the beef flavor or the oriental flavor and that Ramen pallet ain't looking too bad.
these prices tell me the steam machine absolutely would have been set at something at least semi-affordable if AI wasn't fucking up absolutely everything. cool cool cool
100% - just working backwards from the 4X-10X on the cost of retail SSDs & RAM, this should've slid in at about $600 bucks, maybe $750 originally with margin. As it stands I would bet they're selling these at near cost.
It's so cool there's a huge AI tax on the rest of the IT/computing world now.
friend sent me an ign article (can dig through dms if you want it!) with confirmation from valve that it was planned at $750
Valve planned the top tier machine to be $1,050 as the maximum possible cost point when developing it with the expectation that they should be able to get it lower but price spikes in supply could drive cost up. Poor bastards.
It has a high price due to (*gestures broadly*) everything, but the Steam Machine feels like a device that finally, really brings AAA PC gaming to the living room. Dan's enjoyed his time with it, and put together this video to answer some of your burning questions! www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEDi...
Can we get a separate video where Dan has to explain the market factors driving the price of RAM and memory up? Bak 2 Skool 2: Strait 2 Hormuz
with $1,050 being the price inflated by all this bullshit, I imagine it would have been a no brainer for most folks at the original intended price
"valve might not sell a lot of steam decks, but everyone who would have bought one went out and installed steamOS on their gaming pc" -go ahead and attribute this wholly original and not inspired by brian eno talking about the velvet underground quote to me if it proves true
I'll be honest, I'm considering it, but not because I want SteamOS and only because Microsoft is shoving AI into every part of windows.
I just wish I could figure out how to mute the incoming hoard of “we built a better PC for Steam Machine money” videos on YouTube that all entirely miss the point.
Steamos Steamos Bonana-fana fo feemos. Fee fi fo feamos. Steamos. Also attribute this to me if it turns out to be true (it will)
I actually did this. I play 90% single player RPGs. Seeing them all work on the Deck got me dual-booting my desktop 👌
Older video but uh, this is basically my take on the Steam machine pricing! youtu.be/AXf66oSSwHU
All of it’s just making me pivot hard into my monstrous backlog honestly. But I’m tired, because we should be able to have it both ways
If governments functioned, it would be illegal to buy 99 percent of the worlds supply of anything on basically a fucking IOU.
My unplayed library is big enough that I won’t have to ever upgrade lol
Official price for Valve's Steam Machine 🎮 • 512GB model — $1,049 • 2TB model — $1,349 Sales begin June 29
I’m a Millennial, what the fuck is that?
if anyone thought it WASN'T going to be over a thousand bucks they were living under a rock to not be paying attention to the RAM shortage
We need to manually disassemble AI data centers.
hitting myself on the head with a brick is free though, I think I've made my choice
i'm not particularly clear why anyone would EXPECT valve to sell steam machines at a loss? the goal of doing that is to get people on your platform but everyone's already fucking ON steam. selling the hardware at a loss purely so people will have a bonus option isn't a thing literally anyone does
seven months ago, before all of this, the logic was it would be a killing blow on playstation. steam would just Eat Consoles. they were never gonna do that but that was at least the logic back then. many things have happened since
I think at this point the logic for keeping the price point as low as possible is that you need to sustain the Steam userbase, uh, existing during the silicon supply chain crisis. Basically if you leave it up to ~*~the market~*~, your addressable market is shrinking because PC too expensive
People are just broke and frustrated and to be fair, Valve makes an insane amount of money, but yeah its a bit apples and oranges logic
Steam is selling these things at The Price They Should. Also the price they should, due to EVERYTHING, really really sucks.
Yeah. If historically the idea of selling the console at a loss was to make up the difference in software sales and licensing, that... wouldn't even apply here, anyway?
long-running framing as gaben as a benevolent rich person
At current hardware prices, are console manufacturers even selling at a loss anymore? Feels like holdover thinking from easier times.