Declaration grievances against King George III compared to Trump
Not true. In their list of grievances, the Founding Fathers complained that King George III was blocking colonial laws that would promote immigration and make it easier for foreign settlers to become citizens.
In a list of twenty seven grievances, immigration is seventh. Taxation without representation is seventeenth.
This is a thing that fucks me right up about the modern era. For ALL of recorded history, societies have done their utmost to try and lure people in, settle people here. This because people is manpower, is production, is soldiers, is tenants, is TAXPAYERS. You want more of those, always, end of.
Amazing post about immigration & the DOI (and book) by an amazing historian on immigration for those interested 🗃️ bsky.app/profile/unla...
People have lots of ideas about what the founders did and did not say, and most of those ideas are unrelated to reality.
Wow it’s been a while since I read this and just below that sounds like a list of things this President has done. I mean like all of them. Beginning with the judges. Bro.
A major grievance was the limit on White expansion westward agreed btwn British govt & First Nations in 1763. The Rebels wanted a land-grab at expense of Native ppls.
I really feel like we need every American to take and pass civics before we allow them to vote.
8 signers of the Declaration of Independence were immigrants to the 13 colonies. 11 of the 13 delegations included either an immigrant, or the son of an immigrant to America.
I mean that is also clearly complaining about Britain stopping them stealing more native lands
Real facts & real history are so inconvenient for MAGAs.
uhhh immigration you sure? because I’m pretty sure this was about colonial settlement on Indian land but whatever 🤷🏻♀️
No wonder the right wingers get angry at npr for posting the text every year.
I used to think it was really silly and funny how conservatives claim to want to conserve the founding values of the country but when they find out what most of them are they just throw a tantrum and lie about it but I am so over it at this point
When I was getting my linguistics degree we also learned that English wasn’t made the official language of the USA because the founding fathers wanted to respect how many different linguistic groups fought for independence from GB.
i think this one is partially what derek is saying but also "colonial laws that promoted immigration" included things like "we should be able to steal the Ohio River Valley"
They made the choice to *not* have an official language in order to promote immigration!
Today we celebrate the PDFing of "Declaration FINAL v3 USE THIS ONE - SIGNED.docx" (Jefferson's draft was heavily edited by the Committee, then again by Congress, and he was big mad about it.)
Okay, but "b_franklin_GrittyOG" broke me. Because that is 100% Franklin.
It's also why Franklin refused to write it because he knew they would edit it down relentlessly and he wasn't willing to deal with it
Franklin was a great editor and Jefferson was the country's greatest diva. I think he probably died mad about it, honestly.
They had to take out all of the images because Word kept reformatting the document.
I read that Jefferson carried around his original and showed it to people until the end of his life.
How they all laughed when Franklin quipped that the final changes were "self-evident" because no one had double-checked that all the tracked changes had been "accepted" in "Declaration FINAL v2 - SIGNED.docx".
My favorite detail here is that Thomas Jefferson literally died mad about these edits. Also "we hold these truths to be self-evident" is a huge improvement over the original "sacred and undeniable."
Trivia: The first local printing, the one that was read in the RI General Assembly, had a misprint and read "June" instead of "July." They had to do a rapid redo to correct it before distributing it to towns. RI Historical Society holds copies of both the misprint and the redo.
Among the most interesting parts of Jefferson's rough draft of the Declaration is the paragraph attacking the Atlantic slave trade, which was cut out of the final version. jeffersonpapers.princeton.edu/declaration-...
imagining a world where independence day is on like 10 july because one guy didn't click through the docusign link in the email before going on vacation for a week
This is a much better Founders x Modern Technology mashup, including the comments: bsky.app/profile/maxk...
hey man we cut a bunch of the stuff about fucking. you had a TON of stuff about fucking in there and it was really weird
More in our episode this week on the big group writing project that was the Declaration of Independence podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/t...
The framers arguments about the constitution and declaration was the original wikipedia article on marvels wolverine talk page
We should be holding Constitutional Congresses at regular intervals (10? 25 years?). Something that gives enough time to see what needs clarifying and adjusting because of societal and environmental changes. We should be making new amendments or addendums all the time. It was supposed to be alive.
Worth a minute if you are a Declaration nerd, which all Americans should be
“It was stunning to realize how closely many of the grievances our founders asserted toward King George III mirror the issues we are facing with the tyrannical despot currently occupying our White House.“ www.americaamerica.news/p/snapshot-i...
Some of us have been saying that was coming since late 2015. The media and congress havent done their jobs.
The patterns of tyranny are remarkably consistent. Which is why the right’s previous obsession with ‘tyranny’ and their current indifference to the real article is so corrupt and grotesque.
It's amazingly obvious - as long as one is not a Supreme Court justice.
Can you imagine in the future Lin-Manuel Miranda writing a musical about us overthrowing Trump?
He’d take that as a compliment.
George Washington in his farewell letter to the American people warned against Donald Trump in all but name.
reread the Declaration of Independence in advance of the Fourth of July, and the list of all the injuries that the British crown inflicted on the colonists straight up reads like Trump's to-do list www.thenation.com/article/soci...
I think of it as one part of his bucket list. Another part is checking off the biblical items to be an Antichrist. The man has some serious life goals.
The next set of articles of impeachment against Trump should be a paraphrase of the Declaration of Independence.
Exactly! I re-read it yesterday and very quickly came to the same conclusion.
I intend to pass out copies of the Declaration in my neighborhood tomorrow, for this very reason.
The founders of America would have already started a revolution against this current government of America
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I remember during his first term, the NPR Twitter account was tweeting the entirety of the Declaration of Independence, and a bunch of MAGA people lost their shit because they thought they were talking about Trump.
We agree. #NoMoreKings #WeThePeople have #NoKings #WeDontDoRoyaltyHere #WeThePeople #Resist
Half of the Declaration of Independence is a list of 27 specific grievances lodged against King George III and his regime. 250 years later, many of these grievances apply to the reign of Trump.
The declaration of independence resonates like current events
This hits so much harder now 😩
youtube.com/shorts/Ju0VV... #EpsteinFiles #EpsteinBallroom #EpsteinVisa #Maxwell #FollowTheMoney John Lithgow reads: Trumpty Dumpty Wanted A Title...
Dean Obeidallah If the founders of our nation came back to life today, they would be urging us to rise up to defeat Trump the same way they defeated King George.
#REPUBLICANS DONT OWN JULY 4TH. #REPUBLICANS OWN JANUARY 6TH #IndependenceDay #FourthOfJuly
The history of the US has much more dirt than greatness.
Happy One of the Worst July 4ths in US history. The good news: the best American values & principles will eventually triumph over Trump, his vanity, his corruption, his racism & his politics of hate. After all, Americans have risen up against a tyrant before. www.motherjones.com/politics/202...
JACK SMITH SAID IT BEST "My strong view is rather than critiquing people who haven't done what we'd like them to do, let's focus on when we see someone doing the right thing, we hold them up." USAF Major Jason Watson is a hero
Trump is the greediest, most dishonest, most indecent, most undeserving & the most insufferable bloated bag of snot we’ve ever been forced to call POTUS. His level of inhumanity brings shame to our nation. NOVEMBER 3, 2026 will be America’s Independence celebration — WE WILL VOTE OUT REPUBLICANS!
I need you to be right. This whole decade has been mired by the 🍊💩. The underbelly of the US has been on full display. Clearly 1865’s ire has festered. 1/3 of America thinks the vomit spewing WH is ok. The 2/3 majority must get into #goodtrouble now until Nov 4, 2026
Yeah we’re gonna hang with some friends. No flags. Couple drinks. Good stuff on the grill. Celebrate what’s good about the USA (there’s still a lot of it). Decry what’s bad (still too much). And think about how we continue to help get this country out of the freaking mess it’s currently in.
A doctor friend thinks Trump suffers from porphyria, a genetic disorder characterized by confusion, agitation, and paranoia. King George III had the same thing and they treated him with leeches and arsenic, which today is known as the GOP healthcare plan.
In medicine we are taught to look for donkeys, not zebras. So I think Trump is just an old, obese narcissistic jackass.
I'm cleared to handle leeches. And I'm sure I can pick up rat-poison at a hardware store. I can cure this disease.
It’s funny that you should mention King George III on July 4th. Did you know that Trump just talked to King George III yesterday?
Never seen this claim about Trump before. Doctors are supposed to examine patients before diagnosing them.
Can’t treat trump with leeches they wouldn’t bite him out of professional courtesy.
Sorry but no. Trump suffers from narcissism, greed but mostly, being a complete twat.
Happy 4th to you + yours. Did you know the colonists were BIG MAD at King George III over migration & citizenship issues to the point that these end up as enumerated line items in the Declaration of Independence? Drawn from the colonial chapter of Migration & the Origins of American Citizenship.
Amazing post about immigration & the DOI (and book) by an amazing historian on immigration for those interested 🗃️ bsky.app/profile/unla...
This is really an outstanding book. You should get it and read it!
A worthy morning read and time well spent, on this day when we need to remember.
The Globe is going back in time to 1776. The Continental Congress voted to adopt a Declaration of Independence from King George III. Read the day's news from Massachusetts and beyond. globe.com/1776
So proud of this! Spend a little time with the Globe today!
Este es el trabajo en el que he estado implicado estas semanas. Hoy 4 de julio, EEUU celebra el 250 aniversario de su Declaración de Independencia y The Boston Globe ha creado una edición física y digital de su periódico, ilustrado con ilustraviones hechas por mi mano, como habría sido en 1776. 🙏
Ooh, be sure to mention how the mean old Crown won’t let the colonists exercise their divinely-ordained right to ethnically cleanse the Ohio Valley.
The Boston Globe is going back in time to 1776 with my illustrations!!! In a digital edition, but also in a traditional print newspaper, we celebrate the anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. Great work, team! Thank you for counting on me!
It's about time for the annual list of the grievances in the Declaration of Independence that Trump has committed. Let's see what we have recently...
good morning let’s draft it up
🎯🧵"So far he's gotten to a solid majority of the grievances, and arguably we could count a couple others."
I remember when NPR did their annual reading of the Declaration and trump supporters got all mad because they thought NPR was talking about trump
Ok so I am of the Schoolhouse Rocks era and…I don’t ever remember being told that King George III was mad until the movie came out, which was clearly set—it was a major plot point—until years after the Revolutionary War?
Anyway the idea that we were taught that the reason that there was growing tension between colonists and the crown was his mental health…no.
His first severe and lingering episode wasn’t until 1788-89, so after 1776, but he did have a less severe and short-lived bout in 1765, but it was significant enough to prompt a regency bill in Parliament in case he was incapacitated.
I don’t recall thinking he was crazy. I remember taxation without representation.
Queen Charlotte (of Bridgerton genre, Netflix) does a spin on it. The wigs make it a hoot.
Pretty sure he wasn’t “mad” until a breakdown about a decade after our revolution. This discusses it a bit. www.biography.com/royalty/king...
The Declaration of Independence repeatedly names transgressions of King George III not because he's merely a symbolic figurehead, but because he was the driving force behind the intransigence of his ministers in Parliament refusing to treat with colonial complaints.
Had the American Revolution truly been a revolt against Parliament in favor of an even stronger executive, the natural outcome would have been to make George Washington king. And that very explicitly did not happen.
Perhaps Thiel isn’t as smart as people give him credit for. The beauty of the Declaration is its clear-minded determination—there’s no cryptic, Dan Brown plot behind it.
Maybe he missed the dozens of “Facts submitted to a candid world” that specifically name King George III
Still fair to say Trump is more authoritarian, corrupt, and madder and less comoetent than King George III. That does not help Theil's argument, just shows we need to impeach Trump.