Dodgers acquire Tarik Skubal from Tigers
The Dodgers didn't cheat to get Skubal. Everything they've done is by regulation. They play to win. People are angry at them because the chickenshit owners of their teams don't play to win, too. So whiny. Either play to win, or shut up.
Justin Satzman25Don’t care, after what transpired at the White House the other day, the Dodgers are dead to me and should be to every other Angelino
Otterly Unhinged23Ma'am, I am a White Sox fan. I have it in me to be angry at the Dodgers on top of my perpetual contempt for Jerry Reinsdorf.
scienceman007.bsky.social13Not gonna lie, this is one of the worst takes I’ve ever heard in my life. There’s no salary cap. It’s not even close to an even playing field. You legit sound like Bezos telling mom and pop shops to their mouths.
Chris Sinclair12A couple of years ago, owners were so mad at Steve Cohen because he was so much wealthier than most MLB owners AND he was actually spending money on the Mets. Look where the Mets are now. There will come a time in the future where the Dodgers’ current approach will hamstring them for years.
dmv1968.bsky.social10Weird take for a progressive. If you’re a Dodgers fan fine enjoy it, but it’s not good for baseball
Mike Branom10Just saw this, referring to Friedman. SETTING UP A SUCCESSFUL PLAYER DEVELOPMENT SYSTEM TAKES SKILL! COMMITMENT! NOBODY STUMBLES INTO A TOP FARM SYSTEM! To act like anyone can *make* prospects with money – despite drafting at the bottom of the first round – is swallowing cheap-owner defeatism!
Based on MLB Pipeline rankings, the Dodgers gave up only their 5th, 7th, and 17th best prospects for Skubal. Plus, they'll pay him roughly $11 million. Other teams were gutless, that's all it is.
DannyD13The majority of MLB teams are more interested in having young, controllable players for cheap instead of competing to win anything
Vmac11While true, all other teams (Milwaukee in particular) need to be more guarded with their prospects since they can't afford to just sign free agents to fill every hole.
Scott Thomsen4Probably because Skubal is only a rental at this point. Dodgers won’t be afraid to pay what it will take to keep him in free agency.
What Happened2We don’t know that the Tigers wanted the Brewers 5th, 7th, & 17th best prospect though. The Dodgers system is hella strong
Serg2Yes, this needs to be the prevailing opinion on this trade. The Brewers, could've had the most devastating 1-2 punch in the sport, instead decided to prospect clutch.
Dan Kelley Sports1Collusion by MLB teams to drive a narrative that leads to no season in 2027?
Peter Abraham44Obviously, some teams have better prospect depth than others, and the Dodgers certainly run deep. The overall point is that it did not take three A+ prospects to get Skubal. Plenty of other teams could have made better offers had they chosen.
Peter Abraham35The equivalent for the Red Sox would be Enddy Azocar, Henry Godbout, and Harold Rivas.
Fire AJ Preller3So tired of these lazy disingenuous takes about the dodgers. The 5th ranked player is a top 25 prospect. They can replenish their major league roster every off season because they have an unlimited payroll. That allows you to stash all your prospects for this sort of thing.
I don’t mind that the Dodgers got Skubal. Paid a decent price, but other teams could have matched and taken on his deal. It’s a choice not to do it. Dodgers are good on-field villains, but the real villains in baseball are owners who rake in cash but cry “small market!” when it’s time to spend.
Miles Grant6Agree & would argue Dodgers are heroes, not villains. Almost exact same team value as Red Sox, similar annual revenue, but Dodgers pay their players 33% more than Red Sox do. The villains are the other billionaires who pocket fans’ cash instead of reinvesting it in team.
John Payant3Amen. This was not a “Dodgers bad” transaction. I am surprised Detroit didn’t get more, but then again, I’m still surprised the Sox only got what they did for Mookie, and of course, the Celtics and the Jaylen Brown trade.
bashfulbob.bsky.social2It's important to remember that Skubal is a free agent at seasons end. He's a rental. He may or may not decide to sign with the Dodgers, who are striving to win a 3rd WS in a row and match the fabulous Oakland A's of the early 70's.
S.J. Moomaw2If the Red Sox needed pitching, I’d be furious this morning.
Swilley19761It’s bad for baseball to have such extreme inequities!!! That said, dodgers had 9 top 100 prospects, far more than anyone else (per MLB.com) and no real need for any of them given their apparent lack of any monetary limits. Their management is spending their money well, but bad for baseball, IMHO
Matt Ford1Because of fantasy sports and maybe video games, fans are strangely sympathetic to billionaires that won’t spend money. Salary cap will only further enable this behavior. Always. Always support labor vs. management. Especially when the owners all have plenty of money.
they're really good at acquisition and dev. they got the main guy they traded for Scherzer/Turner in a trade with Cincinnati, and they got the main guy they traded for Skubal in a trade for Busch. And both got better within their system, which made them more desirable
Compasconk kronk22just to come back to this -- they've been doing it for years, too. They picked up Frankie Montas (and Micah Johnson and Trayce Thompson) for Brandon Dixon, Jose Peraza, and Scott Schebler. 7 months later they traded Montas, Grant Holmes, and Jharel Cotton for Rich Hill and Josh Reddick.
Compasconk kronk14this is possibly rude to Keibert Ruiz and if that's the case, I sincerely apologize
Jim7And they got River Ryan from the Padres for Matt Beaty
Josh Eisenberg6And what frustrates me as the owners have also even tried to limit development so teams could save money or want to cut the draft to limit minor leaguers to, again, save money. The salary cap is just one of several owner proposals that come down to…we just want to take in revenue and not spend it
Adam Carrico3Their office is clearly doing a great job, but it’s a lot easier to trade off a guy like Michael Busch (an everyday starter on another very good team!) when you always seem to fill gaps with free agents like Freddie Freeman.
draxx them sklounst2Craig, you're just gonna leave out Matt Beaty's role in all of this??
With Shohei Ohtani and Tarik Skubal, the Dodgers will be the first team to have a reigning back-to-back Cy Young winner and a reigning back-to-back (or b2b2b) MVP winner appear for them in the same season
lisa2Neither of whom are healthy atm
Tarik Skubal, the most coveted pitcher at this year’s MLB trade deadline, is headed to the Los Angeles Dodgers after they agreed to a trade with the Detroit Tigers on Saturday evening, league sources told The Athletic. More details: nyti.ms/4yUkbnw
Another Josh Smith14Seriously? The f***ing Dodgers? If only MLB could invalidate trades like the NBA. This is absurd. Put a in salary cap (and a floor to force the cheap owners to pay players) already
Patrick13The worst commissioner of all major sports Rob Manfred will just laugh & laugh.
mikecamino03.bsky.social6The Dodgers have just ensured that there will be no Major League Baseball next spring.
Spoiler Alert5I hated the dodgers before it was cool
canucks72.bsky.social3Seriously it’s a joke why even play the games. The rest of the majors needs to just ice them out with trades. They appear to get all the free agents anyways no need to trade the players there as well.
ZoInYoFace!3Wonder how that Mets salary is working out for them…
Neil6Major League Basesball has a major league problem. Honestly, if you're not a fan of LA or a couple of other big-money teams, hoping for a playoff run every couple of decades ain't gonna keep people around. Also, fuck the Dodgers and their MAGA stench.
View from Argus5Mets and Yankees have as much money as the Dodgers. Close are Phillies and Jays. But Dodgers have the smartest front office, best player development, analytics, performance,scouting, etc. They have the best reputation for how they take care of their players. And, players want to be with the winners.
Sara3At what point will someone in a position of journalistic power ask if the owners are colluding to use the Dodgers as an excuse to install a salary cap? That’s obviously what’s happening here and you can’t convince me otherwise.
@TopTrevor2The Rams and Dodgers hate-watch from September to late January is going to be off the charts 😭
ghostrunneron2nd.bsky.social2Don't hate the Dodgers for doing this. Hate the other 29 teams/owners for hoarding money and not doing it.
Gemma Pell2We'll look back on this and laugh when the Brewers win the pennant.
Monorail Maoist2It's amazing how every force in baseball is dedicated to making it less interesting
Why couldn't any other team but the Dodgers get Tarik Skubal? It's not like other teams don't have prospects. Why did the Dodgers ruin baseball? Was it too good to them?
WSJ AI-Powered Office Fish Vending Machine8Moreover why has every owner let the dodgers do all this
Rustin Richtarik 🖖4We make fun of “Bobby Bonilla Day” every year. But that’s literally what the Dodgers are doing.
ben cohen4my darkhorse theory is the other owners *want* the dodgers to do this to make a lockout more palatable to the fans
Thanks For Sharing, Jerk3Can’t believe they got him for that haul—29 other teams simply weren’t trying
Jeremy2How is the Dodgers wanting to win ruining baseball? Literally every owner or ownership group are billionaires. They all could spend a ton of money, but choose not to.
Desert Mage1They really ruined the World Series last year. It was so boring!
Skubal will ask for the moon, because he’s earned it and the Dodgers have it. The owners as a group will cry poverty. The lockout is coming.
Earl F***ing Weaver5And unless the owners open the books and SHOW that poverty, no rational fan will believe them.
pierremcmanus.bsky.social3i’m more angry that the dodgers,who pretty much every year draft half a round lower than the team i root for, have a better farm system than my team.
Rich Neville3The owners already started running ads in Philly about a salary cap.
pjr1105.bsky.social2The commercials that MLB is running about a need for “fairness” are awful. It’s a clever idea to try and this is being done in response to fans, but overlooks the fact that most fans have problems with their owners who often treat them with utter contempt.
gabriel conroy2f*ck the dodgers, Sir i'll take the lockout over watching one team buy the trophy every year, and turn half the league's teams into their farm system bsky.app/profile/the-...
Robert Flax2The owners think that the dodgers winning will mean people want more parity and a salary cap, but the fans just want the Reds and the Orioles to spend more instead of parity. Poverty doesn’t work when the teams sell for billions now. The owners are mistaking public sentiment about billionaires
Wayne Randazzo sounds off on the Angels broadcast about MLB contenders, including the Brewers, letting the Dodgers land Tarik Skubal in a trade with the Tigers. "How does this happen?... It feels like that's a deal other teams could have made." ⚾️🎙️ #MLB
Kyle Birling10A team like the Brewers is just not going to give up top prospects for a guy who they know is gone to LA in two months anyway. The Brewers need to keep depth in their farm system, it's the lifeblood of their organization. They need their prospects more than the Dodgers need theirs.
bensaunderssport.bsky.social1Angels in literally the same market and do nothing to win, these days.
the nbc broadcast keeps showing skubal in dodgers blue, because they hate the city of detroit and its baseball fans
Jac Mac7the only people who hate detroit more are tigers management
irium 🖖🏻3Me for the last two days (a Tigers fan)
Lauren McKenzie2I understood some of these words, and I totally agree
Larry Rubinow1It ain't the Dodgers' fault that Detroit offloaded Skubal; they just had the fantastic prospects to offer in return. It's the Tigers who apparently hate Detroit. Also, welcome back. 🙂
For the night owls: I've written up the transaction analysis for the Skubal trade at @baseballprospectus.com, with the help of @jeffreypaternostro.bsky.social on the prospect side. It's free to read with a basic sub, but as a summary: It's a bummer, but not for the reason you might think.
DannyD1Excellent piece. Many fans will not know that Dodgers are also stacked in the minors which you don’t just buy up. Fucking frustrating as a cubs fans but they could have easily beaten this offer like most other teams. Fucking MLB owners, man
Flannel Shirt LCSW1Totally nailed it. It’s also terrible because it brings out the people who hate thinking. We’re sympathizing about a decision of +/- $30m while we’re bombarded with gambling ads. These guys are looking at the Padres sale and want their payroll options open. Big money is getting harder to get.
Patrick Dubuque20Good morning. I burned the midnight oil last night to write up the Skubal trade, and in the fresh light of morning… yeah, it’s still just sad, mostly. I get why it happened, but I don’t get why it had to happen.
Productive Outs4If you read anything about the Skubal deal today, make it this. It’s so damn good.
Man, if you're the Brewers I don't know how you don't top that Dodgers offer for Skubal.
Dayn Perry22The Tigers shouldn't have traded him in the first place this close to playoff position, but that's another matter.
Oldcity11As soon as the Brewers start trading top prospects for rentals, that window closes real soon. I’d rather watch a playoff team every year than close the window more quickly for a 10-20% better chance at a WS this year
rbloodworth78.bsky.social1It’s collusion. The owners collectively let that trade happen so they could use the Dodgers’ All-Star Team to argue for a hard salary cap in the offseason, even though this trade had nothing to do with money.
War2D21Very relieved that he’s going to the expected recipient. I’ll have to fend off angry texts from my “baseball is broken” friends, but rather that than on the Brewers.
CraftySousepaw1Have you not paid attention to the Brewers model the last decade plus? Back to your gaming console.
Cooper Lund57The actual magic trick that the Dodgers have played is being willing to deal their prospects. Part of that is having a pipeline where there will always be more prospects, sure, but they’re also willing to push chips in a way that basically the rest of the league isn’t.
RD Topp13This Brewers fan understands and supports it completely.
Math11I appreciate all these tears the national folks like to cry for us but we're good here give me a pitcher with more than 2 months of control if we're gonna deal from our good prospect depth
Mark Copelovitch11👇🎯 It is bad that MLB is becoming the EPL, but also this. The Brewers & others simply aren't trying like they could. bsky.app/profile/cpto...
Joel Reamer3It’s almost like the Brewers operate completely differently from other teams due to their varying financial situations.
brian2real head scratcher there. oh well!
alex2this is the main thing i’m thinking about. surely they had the chance to
Bring five hours ahead certainly gives one a head start on the Tarik Skubal-to-the-Dodgers freakout to come.
Craig13If you’d like a British hot take while you’re on BST, the freak out should be about the Rays, Brewers and Atlanta failing to do what they needed to do to win this year.
✶ ✶ Veggie Jackson ✶ ✶3I feel like the freak out is more annoyance at this point for serious baseball fans.
Banshees of Atlantic City1If the Dodgers win it all again we might not see baseball for a while.